Angels sign Julio Teheran (1 year, $9 million)

[rafibomb]

Also, Julio has always been a guy to outpitch his peripherals.

[beatlesrule]

1 minute ago, SoWhat said:

 

So it's like Eppler traded him and Garrett Williams for Zack Cozart and a prospect and still has 4 million left over.

[krAbs]

Just now, Stradling said:

Ok, well 22 home runs last year isn’t bad considering the ball was likely juiced.

True. Also just the hard reality: we need arms. Its interesting, baseball reference is a lot higher on him than fangraphs projections. 4.15 ERA vs 5.44 ERA (and a WAR of 0.5). If we get the BR version, then this is a solid pickup.

[Glen]

3 minutes ago, Stradling said:

No way.  I’d be very surprised.

Surprise.

[ScottT]

12 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

Cole/Wheeler/Grandal

Bundy/Teheran/Maldonado?

Hope vs Reality.

 

Ha

So far, it's actually.... Rendon /Teheran/Bundy.   With a chance to add Keuchel or Ryu.... and Maldonado

[Angels_Fan]

There’s a reason this guy couldn’t get any more than a one-year deal and for only $9 million. Because the underlying numbers suggest he’s another Blanton waiting to happen.

Steamer is projecting an ERA close to 5.5 with a 0.5 WAR. 

[Ray McKigney]

[VariousCrap]

1 minute ago, Erstad Grit said:

I've been hard on the guy. Atlanta left him off their playoff roster. If he can lower his walks he has potential being only 28. I actually wanted him but in the role Bundy will likely occupy. Not happy with him being our number 2, or even 3 and sliding Ohtani into 2. 

He won't be their number two or three.  It will be:

Whoever they get next, Ohtani, Bundy, Teheran, Canning, Heaney

[Lou]

4 minutes ago, Stradling said:

No way.  I’d be very surprised.

i agree

[Stradling]

I’d like to point out that I am surprised @Glen @Lou

[Stradling]

Oh and by 2pm unless we sign another player or another player like Ryu or Keuchel goes to another team this thread will be at 12 pages by 2pm, minimum

[Inside Pitch]

4 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Is he a ground ball pitcher?  I noticed he only gave up 22 home runs last year in 174 innings.

I talked about this about a month ago -- but his sinker is an elite level pitch.   His problem is his FB has become an awful pitch.

Here's a good read on his sinker - https://blogs.fangraphs.com/julio-teheran-sinks-to-success/

He seriously needs to can the FB, throw sinkers and junk and call it a day.   

[Erstad Grit]

2 minutes ago, VariousCrap said:

Some of you negative nellies need to realize Teheran isn't being signed to be the Angels ace.  In a six man rotation, this guy will be their #4 and he is a very good #4.

 

 

That's great.....um...who is our 1 and 2 again? 

[Jay]

6 minutes ago, Bronson said:

A 2-3 WAR pitcher that pitches 30+ starts a year and we’re complaining???

 

Jesus.

You're right, he's our Ace!

[Bronson]

1 minute ago, Angels_Fan said:

There’s a reason this guy couldn’t get any more than a one-year deal and for only $9 million. Because the underlying numbers suggest he’s another Blanton waiting to happen.

Steamer is projecting an ERA close to 5.5 with a 0.5 WAR. 

[Bronson]

Just now, Erstad Grit said:

That's great.....um...who is our 1 and 2 again? 

That’s great.... um..... we aren’t done.

[Stradling]

Just now, Erstad Grit said:

That's great.....um...who is our 1 and 2 again? 

Undecided.  Ohtani might be one of them.

[rafibomb]

5 minutes ago, SoWhat said:

 

Wow I was almost sure he'd be getting around 12 million. This makes me feel a lot better and I was already pretty content with this move.

[Docwaukee]

5 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Is he a ground ball pitcher?  I noticed he only gave up 22 home runs last year in 174 innings.

GB rates over the last four years with his sinker:

58.1%, 57.6%, 55.8%, 54.5%

Sinker is a plus pitch.  

[Justin]

Gerrit Cole career: 24.0 bWAR, 3.22 ERA  and we were on suicide watch when he went to NY.

Julio Teheran career: 20.2 bWAR, 3.67 ERA and people are complaining.

The rotation will be better.

[Erstad Grit]

3 minutes ago, VariousCrap said:

He won't be their number two or three.  It will be:

Whoever they get next, Ohtani, Bundy, Teheran, Canning, Heaney

Oh God

Ohtani (whom I loooooove) who hasn't pitched in a long while and will be on a innings limitation is not a 2

Bundy is not a 3 

Keuchel, even if we get him, is not a 1 

[failos]

5 minutes ago, Billy_Ball said:

Or Despagne whatever his name is, lol.

Oh yeah forgot about that mofo. Truly the dark ages of Angels baseball.

[kevinb]

6 minutes ago, SoWhat said:

 

I will take an under 10 million dollar contract for a guy who throws 170 plus innings a year. Good signing Eppler. Still need another top of the rotation arm but for a mid rotation arm at this price sounds good. 

[VariousCrap]

4 minutes ago, Second Base said:

Teheran is one of those confusing pitchers. Everything about him suggests he shouldn't be very good. Even his FIP is absolutely atrocious. Yet his ERA remains solid every year.

I do not see this ending well. Everything down to the price tag matches that Harvey-Cahill logic. 

Fire Eppler.

Did you take idiot pills today?  WTF man.  Neither Harvey or Cahill averaged 175+ innings prior to the Angels signing them.

Edited December 19, 2019 by VariousCrap

[Docwaukee]

7 minutes ago, wopphil said:

What an absolute steel. Great signing at a great price. LOVE this move.

polished steel?