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  1. Really nice piece. Very measured. Two thoughts. 1. Rushing Dana would be the most Angels-thing ever. Let him cook, we are not winning it all this year. 2. I'd be really interested to hear IP's take/thoughts. I know he references a lot of predictive data that might be useful in continuation of this thread.
  2. I wonder why not? This team, as constructed, should put it's resources towards the future and pitching. I want to barf when I see the Snell rumors.
  3. School is in session for us, but I hope like hell you do something like this in 4+ years when I able to retire. Would love to join all of you!
  4. Man, thanks for sharing this. What a wonderful kid and someone I hope we treat the right way moving forward. You can just tell he's got it together and is super respectful. In this day and age, its refreshing.
  5. No interest whatsoever in Yellich. The bill will come due and we'll have to watch and suffer. When will we learn these long-term contracts given to 33+ year old position players rarely, if ever, work out? I'm exhausted with this approach.
  6. I'm in the minority for sure, but I have no interest in signing a player to a 500 million dollar deal. We've been, and continue to be, down the road of having a few high-priced star position players that hinder our ability to complete a roster (read: resources towards high-end SP and BP). I'm exhausted with the approach.
  7. Now THAT's the totdprods I am accustomed to. Well stated and agree (almost) wholeheartedly (as the decision to not trade Othani the last two deadlines still chaps me!). But I totally get where you are coming from, so thanks for clarifying.
  8. I respect your contributions, totprods, but just can't agree with this. No organization came overcome those obstacles long-term regardless of a short-term plan (of which, I agree with you on). Winning organizations don't have meddling owners reluctant to spend on the farm or analytics, and fire people who don't perform under their "keep the revenue streams going" approach. None, in any sport. The idea we can properly evaluate any GM knowing the parameters our owner puts in front of them is almost comical. As fans, we just clamor so much for the next season that I sometimes think we lose perspective of the big picture (forrest from the trees, so to speak).
  9. I can appreciate your faith in our organization's abilities. I wish I had the same faith, but two decades of incredibly questionable decision-making has me quite down. And yes, I believe it starts with Arte, but that has been regurgitated to death.
  10. You couldn't have worded my pending reply to MMC any better. To me, it's more about what we are "protecting" in terms of potential help versus the rather small chance of what he could become. Entirely different discussion if we were loaded at the younger levels. But we're not. As has been stated, we should be looking for guys from other teams with this profile given our baren organization.
  11. I know I shouldn't regurgitate this, but can't help myself. Under Arte, I didn't ever feel it was going to be a good idea to resign Ohtani from an organizational perspective. Three really high-priced players, none of who pitch, and all of whom would be 29+ and signed for multiple years simply never made sense with an owner that was luxury-tax avoidant. There was simply no way to put the necessary roster, specifically to pitching, around those three with a salary ceiling. It's why I'll never understand why we didn't trade him for max value earlier. And as a fan, it pains me to say this because he's been awesome to watch. There are no easy solutions moving forward, particularly with the free agent class being so weak. I'm bracing myself for some ridiculous move, initiated by Arte, for someone that will put butts in the seats/generate excitement to the casual fan that will ultimately be a disaster (and certainly not for pitching). It's the cycle we've been on over and over again, but has been successful for Arte's business plan. Sorry for the rant.
  12. I have a bit of a different take. I have come to view Arte as a businessman with a sole purpose of increasing the value and revenue of his business. And he has done this very well. He's managed to put his resources in the areas that convince his fans that the product they purchase is a solid one and worth following (i.e. spending their money on his product). There is defined amount of money he's willing to spend, like all owners, and he allocates his resources for the sole purpose of encouraging his clients (fans) to purchase more. This is to say, I don't believe for a minute that Arte has ever had ambitions of creating a strong organization. To the contrary, he understands that making an occasional and well-timed splash will maintain his clients (fans) interest and drive them to his business. He has been a master at this as the increase in his club's net value over his tenure would demonstrate. Strong organizations that rely on baseball minds shy away from the many deals the Angels have offered; an aging Albert or Rendon, Josh, and many, many others. I fear his desire to resign Ohtani for revenue purposes only may be another example. However, Arte has been a wise-enough businessman to know that those moves would excite his clients and put butts in the seats. More intelligent "baseball-moves" would not provide him what he desires as they don't excite the average fan. The average fan doesn't "see" the work done in the background (i.e. the technology reference in the article), investments overseas, or any other money placed into infrastructure in an organization. That doesn't sell excitement, which Arte has always been interested in. I just don't believe for a minute the reason the Angels haven't been successful for the past two decades is because they've mistakenly chose where to invest in high-priced players. Strong baseball organizations have shown us time and time again they can overcome the occasional error. But Arte is different. He's successfully managed to create excitement regardless of the deals he's signed player to. He's managed to get 3 million customers to purchase his product routinely. That's successful business from his view. At the end of the day, his vision doesn't align with most/all diehard fans. But he controls the signings and the narrative. And it's the reason why it has sucked to be a diehard fan of his team, and will continue to be while his owner, for many of us.
  13. RIP Brandon and condolences to his family. What an awful week for the AW Brotherhood. My heart goes out to some of you guys who had personal relationships with Lou and Brandon.
  14. Been thinking about Lou ever since I learned of the news. RIP Lou! You will continue to be in my thoughts and prayers.
  15. "Pivoting" and signing Rendon was on Arte, Chuck. And it wasn't the first time he chased a flashy, low-30's position player in free agency. The W-L of this team during his ownership is certainly on Arte. I don't think he deserves to get blamed for injuries or not a willingness to spend. But he likes to spend on 7-day a week players (position players) who attract at that gate and have name recognition. The Rendon signing seemed like a panic at the time, tbh. And no one could have predicted it would end up being this bad. I mean, it's just horrible.
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