THE Official 2019-2020 Hot Stove Thread

[Vlad27Trout27]

i say Coel at eithe 7yr 230 mil or 6yr 260 mil

Ryu at 3yr 50 mil

A catcher, either in a trade or FA

[UndertheHalo]

I really hate the idea of trading a bunch of guys to get a pitcher.  This deplete the little depth that they’ve built up.  It’s not great.  It may well be that Wheeler at 100+ is beyond us now.  It makes getting Cole absolutely imperative. 

Edited December 4, 2019 by UndertheHalo

[JustATroutFan]

White Sox have a terrific young core with Moncada, Jimenez, and Giolito. Their offense should put up a lot of runs next season. They're about another starting pitcher or two away from making a lot of noise. AL Central could be a three team race next year with Kluber coming back for Cleveland. 

[Broad Street]

4 hours ago, Erstad Grit said:

I read a few different sources rumoring Turner to 1b and muncy to 2b and lux/seager/pederson trade for lindor. 

I don’t know why they’d want 2 SS unless they’re going to move Lux to 2B. Even then I’d probably save either Lux or Seager for a separate trade package somewhere else if I’m the Dodgers. I live in OKC so I got season tickets to see the OKC Dodgers here (I know, fuck the Dodgers but baseball is baseball and it’s all I got) and Lux is an absolute monster. They’ve got a lot of positional talent on that team. 

[Erstad Grit]

37 minutes ago, Vlad27Trout27 said:

i say Coel at eithe 7yr 230 mil or 6yr 260 mil

Ryu at 3yr 50 mil

A catcher, either in a trade or FA

I'd looooooove that. Even swap Madbum for Ryu and I still love it. 

[Pancake Bear]

6 minutes ago, Erstad Grit said:

I'd looooooove that. Even swap Madbum for Ryu and I still love it. 

Cole won’t be signing for 230 or for 6 years. 7 260 *might* get it done. 

[mmc]

 

[mmc]

 

[Pancake Bear]

Wheeler’s agent is apparently letting teams know he wants  to sign this week. Word is the White Sox are offering the most. Suggests to me he doesn’t really want to go to Chicago but doesn’t like the other offers so far and is trying to get other teams to offer at least comparable money. 

[Brandon]

3 hours ago, Broad Street said:

I don’t know why they’d want 2 SS unless they’re going to move Lux to 2B. Even then I’d probably save either Lux or Seager for a separate trade package somewhere else if I’m the Dodgers. I live in OKC so I got season tickets to see the OKC Dodgers here (I know, fuck the Dodgers but baseball is baseball and it’s all I got) and Lux is an absolute monster. They’ve got a lot of positional talent on that team. 

But you have Billy Sims and Rib Crib. There were two more BBQ joints I liked in desolate meth ridden areas, but these two around Moore/ OKC were great. Norman had a good one as did Tulsa and Stillwater when I was next to the campus, but different parts of the map.

[mmc]

 

I hope we take a gamble on Lindblom.

[Troll Daddy]

2 minutes ago, mymerlincat said:

 

I hope we take a gamble on Lindblom.

What’s your take on Yimi Garcia 

[mmc]

3 minutes ago, Troll Daddy said:

What’s your take on Yimi Garcia 

No thanks, he had the lowest BABIP among qualified relievers which means he's actually been extremely lucky and was still not very good last season.

[Inside Pitch]

36 minutes ago, Troll Daddy said:

What’s your take on Yimi Garcia 

22 HRs allowed in last 84 IP....   He's an extreme FB pitcher in the age of launch angle, not the best bet for future success.

[jsnpritchett]

 

[jordan]

1 hour ago, jsnpritchett said:

 

It’s weird. Jon Morosi is the one who included the Angels among 3 others as leading candidates for Wheeler a couple weeks ago. Now not a peep of the Angels being involved. 

[totdprods]

The Chicago Cubs have been, according to various executives, "aggressive," "manic," "motivated" and "obvious" in their desire to trade someone. Or someones. The Cubs are going to make a move. They're just not sure what yet.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/12/latest-on-cubs-offseason-plans.html

Still think an Angels/Cubs blockbuster makes too much sense. There’s so many ways both teams could help each other...Contreras, Quintana, Darvish, Chatwood, Caratini, Bryant, Schwarber, Kimbrel, even Hendricks, Lester, Heyward all could fit. Heaney, Marsh, Rengifo, Cozart, Upton, Fletcher, La Stella, Adams, Barria, Sandoval, Suarez, Jones, Thaiss, Bedrosian, Anderson, etc. etc. all make sense for the Cubs.

[totdprods]

4 minutes ago, jordan said:

It’s weird. Jon Morosi is the one who included the Angels among 3 others as leading candidates for Wheeler a couple weeks ago. Now not a peep of the Angels being involved. 

Could be that once things got into the $100m+ range they ducked out. And I don’t blame them. 

I think Eppler is all in on Cole or Strasburg right now given the upcoming visits both pitchers are having with teams. Either one of them almost HAS to be our top priority - not Wheeler - and as soon as bidding for Wheeler topped $100m+ it was probably very unrealistic to budget in. 

While everyone’s focused on Wheeler, it’s probably a good time for them to check in on Ryu, Bumgarner, Hamels, the trade market, and a lesser extent, Keuchel, Roark, Wood, Teheran, and see if they can swoop in and nab someone else for something reasonable. 

[jsnpritchett]

 

[jsnpritchett]

 

[Angels_Make_Me_Drink]

Sounds more like the Yanks doing their due diligence and believing he’s going to a west coast team. No cash numbers involved? Is that normal for such a big free agent? 

[totdprods]

58 minutes ago, Angels_Make_Me_Drink said:

Sounds more like the Yanks doing their due diligence and believing he’s going to a west coast team. No cash numbers involved? Is that normal for such a big free agent? 

Seems normal this early on, as mentioned it was just an introductory meeting.

[eligrba]

1 hour ago, Angels_Make_Me_Drink said:

Sounds more like the Yanks doing their due diligence and believing he’s going to a west coast team. No cash numbers involved? Is that normal for such a big free agent? 

@Tank ???  Is this your experience?

[floplag]

Per ESPNs blockbuster for each team column our big splash will be Wheeler and Ryu with Cole going to the Nats and the big blockbuster Cubs trade involving the Astros and Reds instead of us.
That will not give me the warm and fuzzies.

Heres the link if anyone wants to puke...
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/28211999/one-blockbuster-move-all-30-mlb-teams

 

[jsnpritchett]

8 minutes ago, floplag said:

Per ESPNs blockbuster for each team column our big splash will be Wheeler and Ryu with Cole going to the Nets and the big blockbuster Cubs trade involving the Astros and Reds instead of us.
That will not give me the warm and fuzzies.

Heres the link if anyone wants to puke...
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/28211999/one-blockbuster-move-all-30-mlb-teams