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  1. Absolutely. At this point, it's totally fair to wonder whether we'll get anything from Trout and (especially) Rendon, but you also don't have to squint too hard to see strong seasons from either or both. Neither is particularly old. The vets, like Ward, Drury, Rengifo, and Hicks all were above average hitters last season. The kids - O'Hoppe, Neto, Schanuel, Moniak, and Adell - all have to some extent the ability to break out in a big way. But, like you said, Trout and/or Rendon could have just another crappy injury-filled season, the vets could regress, and the kids could fail to take the next step, and we could have a bottom tier offense. There's a ton of volatility - and my biggest concern is that we really need more infield depth. Bringing in a JD Martinez would be huge, imo.
  2. Sure, if you assume everything remains static from year to year. Just saying Ohtani is gone and everything else remains the same is kinda disingenuous: Even the Rangers' offensive shift over the last two seasons shows how much a team can change from just one season to the next. The Angels have a new manager and coaching staff, young players who are coming into their prime, and two former MVPs who haven't been healthy in a couple of seasons. Am I saying we're going to have an amazing offense this season? Absolutely not, and I wish we'd brought in another player or two to help with depth, but there's a lot to potential in the lineup - we just seem to get the shit end of the stick every year with injuries.
  3. Probably, but it wouldn't be the first time in recent years they did a one year deal with draft compensation attached. Syndergaard, for instance. My point is still that there's not really a deal that makes sense for both, which is probably why he hasn't signed. Bellinger made it work because he went back to the Cubs, so they lost nothing.
  4. This is kinda how I feel, too. I'm not especially optimistic. Snell/Boras obviously have an ultimate goal of a long term deal, but it's self-evident that they won't get one at the level they want at this point in time. So, what's the alternative? They want a deal that is effectively a one year deal but that is structured longer with opt-outs in case Snell underperforms. By contrast, Moreno/Perry clearly aren't going to go for a long term deal at the rate Snell wants or it would've happened already. It's not like there's loads of bidders. The problem with a short term deal is it'll be an expensive first year, plus a loss of a draft pick in a season that Arte probably (with good reason) doesn't think we'll be competitive in. And if there are opt-outs, that makes it an even worse deal for us because Arte is assuming all the risk for extremely limited gain. And at 31, I don't see any world in which Snell accepts a deal with the first opt out after two years, which would make more sense for us. I think the leaks about Snell wanting to play for us are probably true. I think he genuinely enjoyed being on the West coast and playing in SoCal. I just don't see a deal that makes sense materializing easily without Arte bending, because it doesn't really make sense for Snell to shift course. The biggest compromise I could see from Snell is a pure one year deal with no opt-outs.
  5. It's a fair point that the value is likely to be insignificant, but it also leaves out the value in terms of trade capital - prospects aren't valuable exclusively based on how good they will eventually be if they make the show.
  6. Snell wanted a long term deal, but reportedly he's now open to an opt out deal. Presumably that would involve an opt out after year one on any contract. I'm assuming Arte doesn't want to do an opt out deal because those aren't great for the team. We probably are wanting a 3ish year deal with no opt outs, but that obviously is less appetizing to Snell/Boras since their goal is for him to have a big season and re-enter the market next season. Personally, I'm less confident Snell ends up here. I could certainly believe they're interested, I just don't see a deal that is likely to work unless we give in on opt-outs, which I'm skeptical about. JD Martinez seems more likely, but I wouldn't bet a ton on that either.
  7. Don't think that was Passan. Hoonstra and Moroni were the dupes behind that train wreck.
  8. So, we're presuming that the Red Sox medical staff is so bad that when signing him they didn't notice a freaking UCL tear? Seems incredibly unlikely.
  9. "Roger Lodge has been sacked" "Arte Moreno has completed a silent sale of the Angels"
  10. TIL 43% = no way. Seems closer to 50-50 to me than it does to 0....
  11. The price has clearly gone down if Bellinger is any indication. If Arte refuses now, he has no interest in winning.
  12. Weren't Sandoval, Detmers, Anderson, and Suarez supposed to be in the rotation last season? We've basically been going heavy on lefties for a while now.
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