LAT: Angels Engaging in Talks w/ Ryu and Keuchel

[Jeff Fletcher]

1 hour ago, Chuckster70 said:

@Jeff Fletcher can you confirm this?

I can’t confirm that. But generally the Angels will never “rule out” anything. So you can almost always say they “haven’t ruled out” anything that seems semi-reasonable. 

[Dtwncbad]

28 minutes ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

I can’t confirm that. But generally the Angels will never “rule out” anything. So you can almost always say they “haven’t ruled out” anything that seems semi-reasonable. 

So you are saying they haven’t ruled out trading for Blake Snell.

[Second Base]

3 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

So you are saying they haven’t ruled out trading for Blake Snell.

Rumors has it the Rays are targeting slap-dick prospects. 

[Angelsjunky]

18 minutes ago, Second Base said:

Rumors has it the Rays are targeting slap-dick prospects. 

@tdawg87?

[Lou]

[Dick B Back]

[Second Base]

28 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

@tdawg87?

[Angels_Make_Me_Drink]

I think at this point, I'd prefer a deal with Ryu over Keuchel. When healthy, Ryu is a solid #2 pitcher. 

[Drink More Yakult]

3 minutes ago, Angels_Make_Me_Drink said:

I think at this point, I'd prefer a deal with Ryu over Keuchel. When healthy, Ryu is a solid #2 pitcher. 

*#2 in Cy Young voting pitcher.

[ScottT]

I want the Angels to get Ryu for three years.  Maybe incentives beyond that.  Now that they've gotten some decent innings, I'd like to roll the dice on some upside 

[ten ocho recon scout]

1 hour ago, ScottT said:

I want the Angels to get Ryu for three years.  Maybe incentives beyond that.  Now that they've gotten some decent innings, I'd like to roll the Rice on some upside 

Oh, we get it. Because hes asian. Ha ha.

[mmc]

Rosenthal says here we’re still interested in Ryu.

[Stradling]

Good. 

[ukyah]

11 hours ago, Second Base said:

perfect.

[Pancake Bear]

Per Rosenthal’s notes in The Athletic (brief excerpt):

“The Blue Jays and Angels are among the teams that remain interested in free-agent left-hander Hyun-Jin Ryu.

The Twins, White Sox and Dodgers also have been linked to Ryu, and earlier in the week I reported on Twitter the expectation within the industry that his contract would exceed Madison Bumgarner’s $17 million average annual value in a deal of at least four years.”

Plus side, it sounds like the other three are hesitant to go that high. If his perception from sources represents reality, it’s looking like the Jays or us. Down side, I’m not crazy about guaranteeing 80m for Ryu. If last year is repeatable, it’s a steal, but if he reverts to injured Ryu, it could quickly turn into a disaster. 

Still, we could definitely use him, and it’s just money for Ryu. No prospects involved, which is a plus. 

[Lou]

has an Asian pitcher ever signed with Toronto?

[Inside Pitch]

36 minutes ago, Lou said:

has an Asian pitcher ever signed with Toronto?

Tomo Ohka did... 

He pitched in Montreal too... as did Irabu and Yoshii.  

[Lou]

2 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

Tomo Ohka did... 

He pitched in Montreal too... as did Irabu and Yoshii.  

we're not getting Ryu! 

[CanadianHalo]

I think we end up signing Ryu tomorrow or Saturday. 

Seems like it’s between us and the Jays and he wants to be on the west coast. 

I hope it’s something like 15mill per and heavily incentive based. This has a very good chance of being a more expensive Cozart signing 

[ScottT]

2 minutes ago, CanadianHalo said:

I think we end up signing Ryu tomorrow or Saturday. 

Seems like it’s between us and the Jays and he wants to be on the west coast. 

I hope it’s something like 15mill per and heavily incentive based. This has a very good chance of being a more expensive Cozart signing 

Tweet it into existence 

[ukyah]

fuck Yu! we got ouRyu!

[mmc]

4 hours ago, Lou said:

has an Asian pitcher ever signed with Toronto?

Literally 3 days ago

 

[eligrba]

6 hours ago, Lou said:

has an Asian pitcher ever signed with Toronto?

 

2 hours ago, mymerlincat said:

Literally 3 days ago

 

[ksangel]

I have heard it said often on this site that Ryu shouldn't be signed because of his injury history and that he doesn't keep himself in shape (though he is pursuing a masters in Physical Education in Korea).

He had TJ surgery in 2004 as a 17 year old.

From 2006 to 2012 he averaged about 180 innings per season in Korea topping out at 211 in 2007.

He pitched 192 innings in 2013 and 152 innings in 2014 for the Dodgers.

He didn't pitch in 2015 because of labrum surgery and only 5 innings in 2016 because of debridement surgery on left elbow.

In 2017 he pitched 127 innings which is probably attributable to coming back from surgery.

In 2018 he pitched only 82 innings because of a groin injury - not an arm or shoulder injury - that placed him on the 60 day disabled list.

In 2019 he pitched 183 innings.

So yes 2015 and 2016 do make one wonder if his pitching arm/shoulder are breaking down but to be quite durable in the eleven other years he has pitched one has to wonder if 2015 and 2016 were blip's and he should judged by the other 11 years in which he has averaged 175 innings + per season.

He has top of the rotation pedigree versus Keuchel, who is nothing more than an inning eater now, and the Angels have enough of those types with signing Bundy and Teheran..

 

 

[T.G.]

Ok. I'm sold.