LAT: Angels Engaging in Talks w/ Ryu and Keuchel

[failos]

https://www.latimes.com/sports/angels/story/2019-12-19/angels-engaging-contract-talks-hyun-jin-ryu-dallas-keuchel

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The Angels have engaged in multiple conversations with agent Scott Boras about clients Hyun-Jin Ryu and Dallas Keuchel, said people familiar with negotiations for arguably the top remaining free-agent starters. But there is no indication that a deal is imminent. Some eight other teams are also jockeying for the services of Ryu and Keuchel, according to reports.

 

 

[Revad]

With that much interest Boras will take his time.

[angelsnationtalk]

She said they'll get $20M/yr. That's a bit overly exaggerated I think. Bumgarner didn't get that. I doubt they'd get that. 

[floplag]

I'm honestly over the "engaging in talks" stuff... we've engaged with every FA pitcher this off season... At this point were the guys still dancing alone at last call

[Angelsjunky]

They're both going to be overpaid because they're the only decent starters left. I'd guess 4/$88M for Ryu, 4/$76M for Keuchel.

[eaterfan]

20 minutes ago, Revad said:

With that much interest Boras will take his time.

I think it will be a hard sell to get Keuchel to hold out long after last season. You have to imagine Keuchel is not interested in a repeat of that and would like to know where he'll be a little earlier this year.

[Chuck]

Man if we get Keuchel and Ryu, in addition to Rendon (and Bundy & obviously a catcher), this may be the best offseason ever.

[Second Base]

[Vladdy Issues]

8 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

Man if we get Keuchel and Ryu, in addition to Rendon (and Bundy & obviously a catcher), this may be the best offseason ever.

Even better than the year we got Vladdy, Bartolo, Escobar and Guillen???

[totdprods]

33 minutes ago, angelsnationtalk said:

She said they'll get $20M/yr. That's a bit overly exaggerated I think. Bumgarner didn't get that. I doubt they'd get that. 

Bumgarner chose to take less.

[Angel Oracle]

33 minutes ago, angelsnationtalk said:

She said they'll get $20M/yr. That's a bit overly exaggerated I think. Bumgarner didn't get that. I doubt they'd get that. 

Maybe Ryu, but not Keuchel.    MLBTR predicted 3 years/$39 million for Keuchel and 3 years/$54 million for Ryu.

Oh, and I take back my post about the Halos and ChiSox being the only ones in on Keuchel.    I thought I had seen that somewhere, but it must have just been someone's musings.

[Angel Oracle]

20 minutes ago, eaterfan said:

I think it will be a hard sell to get Keuchel to hold out long after last season. You have to imagine Keuchel is not interested in a repeat of that and would like to know where he'll be a little earlier this year.

I've been having that same thought since yesterday.

[failos]

6 minutes ago, StandOutRealty said:

Even better than the year we got Vladdy, Bartolo, Escobar and Guillen???

Man, I loved that offseason. Loved the season’s tag line too: “The Halos are back for MORE”

[jchalos89]

If Angels offer $20M+ for Ryu, they better insert a lot of options in his contract. If they aren't putting options and guaranteeing most of money in contract, they better make it less than 3 years.

4+ years mostly guaranteed for Ryu will be disaster for this team sooner or later. His injury history with 32 year old of age makes it impossible to believe that he will be healthy years to come

[Hubs]

I don't understand why people thought Bumgarner was on the decline, and an age risk, but Ryu was not.

Bumgarner is 30, was mostly healthy minus a dirt bike accident, and had years of success. Ryu is 33, had almost never been healthy in his Major League career and some of you want to give him $80M?

Though AO, I'd strongly bet that those MLBTR are low on both counts. 3-4 years at 17 for Keuchel, 3-4 years at 19 for Ryu.

[ettin]

1 hour ago, angelsnationtalk said:

She said they'll get $20M/yr. That's a bit overly exaggerated I think. Bumgarner didn't get that. I doubt they'd get that. 

Bumgarner specifically wanted to play in Arizona and probably took less to go there, so I would be careful basing any other free agent salaries on what he chose to take to be there.

[Inside Pitch]

Just now, Hubs said:

I don't understand why people thought Bumgarner was on the decline, and an age risk, but Ryu was not.

Decline and injury are two different situations.    One is definitely in decline, the other is most certainly an injury risk.  

 

[Inside Pitch]

Just now, ettin said:

Bumgarner specifically wanted to play in Arizona and probably took less to go there, so I would be careful basing any other free agent salaries on what he chose to take to be there.

Looking forward to seeing how Bumgarner does away from his SF safe haven.

[ettin]

1 minute ago, Inside Pitch said:

Looking forward to seeing how Bumgarner does away from his SF safe haven.

Yeah that is not a friendly pitcher park.

[yk9001]

Are there not any other baseball agents besides Scott Boras?

[Stradling]

20 minutes ago, Hubs said:

I don't understand why people thought Bumgarner was on the decline, and an age risk, but Ryu was not.

Bumgarner is 30, was mostly healthy minus a dirt bike accident, and had years of success. Ryu is 33, had almost never been healthy in his Major League career and some of you want to give him $80M?

Though AO, I'd strongly bet that those MLBTR are low on both counts. 3-4 years at 17 for Keuchel, 3-4 years at 19 for Ryu.

I don’t think I have seen a single person that isn’t worried about Ryu being an age or injury risk.  

[Glen]

3 minutes ago, Stradling said:

I don’t think I have seen a single person that isn’t worried about Ryu being an age or injury risk.  

Keuchel and Ryu are the last two women left at the bar at closing time. We have our beer goggles on but we know it.

[Stradling]

9 minutes ago, yk9001 said:

Are there not any other baseball agents besides Scott Boras?

Not this off season.  

[Stradling]

1 minute ago, Glen said:

Keuchel and Ryu are the last two women left at the bar at closing time. We have our beer goggles on but we know it.

Unless I am misunderstanding what you are saying, I think you are being too harsh on those two guys.  

Cole is a 10

Strasburg is a 9.5

Wheeler is an 8

Ryu is a solid 7.5  (I would assume we have all banged a 7)

Keuchel is a 7

[Inside Pitch]

2 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Unless I am misunderstanding what you are saying, I think you are being too harsh on those two guys.  

Cole is a 10

Strasburg is a 9.5

Wheeler is an 8

Ryu is a solid 7.5  (I would assume we have all banged a 7)

Keuchel is a 7

Bumgarner has been a 3.5 away from SF, the last two years.