Official 2015-2016 Hot Stove Thread

[Redondo]

That ONE year.

 

I thought there was more than one from all the negative posts about it.

 

Would you be happy to have him back? What would he project to make? Would it affect who else we sign?

[Troll Daddy]

My first choice is Upton, but because we could keep our draft pick I would be ok with Cespedes depending on contract. I also wouldn't mind Gordon. I wonder how people would feel here if they decided to go get Cespedes but then sign Howie and lose their draft pick.

Howie is worth a draft pick for me. You have the Trout window to consider.

[Troll Daddy]

Upton's .250 batting average ... yikes

[Stradling]

I thought there was more than one from all the negative posts about it.

Would you be happy to have him back? What would he project to make? Would it affect who else we sign?

I would love to have Howie back, but to me I wouldn't sign him if he was the reason we lost our pick. If we went out and got Upton or Gordon, then I would then sign Howie. Just looked up his stats and one year Howie had 26 GIDP, even with that year he has had only 144 for his ten year career. So an average of 14 a year. Take out those 26 and he has averaged about 11 a year. So basically one double play every 12 games or so throughout his career.

[Glen]

You have never "scouted" a player in your life. Please just stop trying.

Maybe not in the baseball sense, but I bet he has in the biblical sense, if you catch my drift.

[bloodbrother]

Upton's .250 batting average ... yikes

 

That career .352 OBP%.....yes please!

[Redondo]

I would love to have Howie back, but to me I wouldn't sign him if he was the reason we lost our pick. If we went out and got Upton or Gordon, then I would then sign Howie. Just looked up his stats and one year Howie had 26 GIDP, even with that year he has had only 144 for his ten year career. So an average of 14 a year. Take out those 26 and he has averaged about 11 a year. So basically one double play every 12 games or so throughout his career.

 

Thanks for your input.

 

Looked up how he did last year with the Dogs

 

117 games played, 17 GIDP. Which factors into 23.538 for 162 games

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/k/kendrho01.shtml

[gotbeer]

Can't we trade a SP for some of Colorado's excess OF'ers?  Blackmon and Dickerson have a lot of appeal. 

 

There are a lot of people interested in the Colorado OF'ers.  KC seems to be going that route if they don't re-sign Gordon. 

[NorCal Halo]

In 2015 HK hit .360/.398/.480 with RISP and .335/.373/.450 with men on base.

 

http://www.baseball-...kendrho01.shtml

[ukyah]

troll daddy's trying to sell us on FO's aren't using advanced stats like WAR. that's a.maz.ing

[TroutField]

I was just reading about the Braves shopping Inciarte who they just acquired in the Shelby Miller deal. He would be an absolutely ideal get for Left. Braves want young pitching that we don't have, oh well. Better get that Upton deal done, Eppy.

[ukyah]

allow me to summarize for everyone: i just don't want to be left without a chair when the music stops.

[Troll Daddy]

troll daddy's trying to sell us on FO's aren't using advanced stats like WAR. that's a.maz.ing

WAR is just a number ... breaking downs stats is a whole different ballgame.

Edited December 14, 2015 by Troll Daddy

[GrittyVeterans]

In 2015 HK hit .360/.398/.480 with RISP and .335/.373/.450 with men on base.

 

http://www.baseball-...kendrho01.shtml

 

He had a terrible defensive season and is 32 year old now. If you're signing him, it needs to be a 3 year commitment at most for 10 million a season, and we need to get Upton with him because giving up a draft pick for just Kendrick wouldn't be smart.

 

More than 3 years for Kendrick seems really risky to me...He's not the greatest athlete in the first place...any more decline in skills and he's just an average ball player or worse. I wouldn't commit to someone for more than 3 years unless the ceiling is high or they are young (I'd give Upton 6 years)

[ukyah]

WAR's a number ... breaking downs stats is a whole different ballgame.

 

 

3 is a number. war is an aggregate equation. don't be confused.

 

btw, if you'd just say, "hey guys, they use more than war to define a player", then you'd be golden.

Edited December 14, 2015 by ukyah

[Halos of Anaheim]

He had a terrible defensive season and is 32 year old now. If you're signing him, it needs to be a 3 year commitment at most for 10 million a season, and we need to get Upton with him because giving up a draft pick for just Kendrick wouldn't be smart.

 

More than 3 years for Kendrick seems really risky to me...He's not the greatest athlete in the first place...any more decline in skills and he's just an average ball player or worse. I wouldn't commit to someone for more than 3 years unless the ceiling is high or they are young (I'd give Upton 6 years)

 

He had a 5 war season the year before with us. I still believe he can be a good defender, who knows -- maybe he wasn't used to playing without Aybar by his side after playing with him for 9 years in the majors. 

[Broad Street]

He's not a great fielder, but he can more than handle left, or right field even

Please tell me you're not talking about Gordon.

[Hollyw00d]

Cespedes

[Troll Daddy]

Cardinals losing interest in spending the money needed to sign one of the top free agent outfielders. We know KC won't spend the money needed for Gordon ... yet he's still on their wish list.

[elbooboo]

Cardinals losing interest in spending the money needed to sign one of the top free agent outfielders. We know KC won't spend the money needed for Gordon ... yet he's still on their wish list.

 

Rosenthal reporting that Giants are going hard after Cueto. I wonder if the price for Gordon got too high and they are changing course. Maybe Gordon to the Angels soon?

Edited December 14, 2015 by elbooboo

[VariousCrap]

If the Giants sign Cueto, their rotation will be really awesome.  That is good because I want them to own the Dodgers next season.

[DailyHalo]

I'm happy with the reconstruction of the team and the over all outcome of the offseason thus far. I've noticed many of you are sitting on the edge of your seats, thinking were in dire straits but virtually none/any of our targets are off the board. The team today is better than last years squad. The winter meetings is basically just a giant Christmas party for the league and a way to celebrate your organization as a whole(ish). Not everything has too be done within that week and we've got a long way to go before spring training. Don't be surprised if the teams immediate direction is something similar too....

 

1. Leftfielder

2. Power lefty pen arm

3. Sign SP

4. Trade SP depth

5. Lefty 2b/DH

Edited December 14, 2015 by DailyHalo

[UndertheHalo]

Buster Olney â€@Buster_ESPN  6m6 minutes ago

Giants are making progress on an agreement with Johnny Cueto. Could reach a deal soon.

 

150 retweets87 likes

 

 

 

 

this is good news for us.  If they pull down Cueto, less likely to spend big on a FA OF.  

 

 

Edited December 14, 2015 by UndertheHalo

[nate]

Sounds like the deal is happening between the Giants and Cueto.  Really hope to hear some OF news soon!

[nando714]

I like what the giants did there