Official 2022-23 Offseason Hot Stove Thread

[TempeAngel]

1 hour ago, Angel Oracle said:

is it going to come down to signing Andrus for a year?

He will get two years probably

[Angels 1961]

49 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

Agree they didn't really lose anything but not sure its that clear of an upgrade.... They basically replaced Frazier with a year older version of Frazier.

Career.

K Wong -.261/.334/.398 - .732 -- 99 OPS+

Frazier - .273/.336/.392 - .728 -- 99 OPS+

So, they gained a bit defensively, maybe lose a bit flexibility wise, but seems like a lateral move.  Also makes it so we likely see more moves from JD which is always entertaining.

Free Agent Aledmys  266/320/443   -763 -- 105 maybe he would be option for Angels

[Angels 1961]

25 minutes ago, TempeAngel said:

He will get two years probably

I would take Aledmys Diaz

[Vlad27Trout27]

All I know is that the Al west is going to be a slugfest! Especially if the Rangers add pitching. 

[BTH]

I thought Wong could’ve fit for the Angels at 2B, but I figured that wasn’t gonna happen once they got Renfroe.

I don’t know if there’s actual data that lends credence to this theory but, anecdotally, it seems like you’d teams would be less likely to make a second trade with each other after they’ve already made one trade with each other during a single offseason.

[mmc]

 

[m0nkey]

[m0nkey]

Shit

[Vlad27Trout27]

What the Fuck..

[CanadianHalo]

Oh shit

[jordan]

That no state income tax is pretty enticing.  

[angelsnationtalk]

Texas still has some holes to fill, but they are going to be a pretty good team in a year or two.

Angels gotta recognize it.

[Erstad Grit]

Wowzers

[Warfarin]

16 minutes ago, jordan said:

That no state income tax is pretty enticing.  

I saw an exercise that showed that Judge would take home about 1mil more, theoretically, if he signed with the Yankees instead of the Giants for the same deal.  I can only imagine how much more deGrom will take home by playing in a no tax state.  That obviously only applies to a chunk of his games, not all, but certainly more than enough.

[jsnpritchett]

4 minutes ago, Warfarin said:

I saw an exercise that showed that Judge would take home about 1mil more, theoretically, if he signed with the Yankees instead of the Giants for the same deal.  I can only imagine how much more deGrom will take home by playing in a no tax state.  That obviously only applies to a chunk of his games, not all, but certainly more than enough.

Well, half of his games are home, obviously. Then also have the Astros, plus Rays, Marlins, and Mariners in states with no income tax. So it adds up.

[Blarg]

13% more than in California. 

[Warfarin]

2 minutes ago, Blarg said:

13% more than in California. 

It doesn’t quite work out like that, given road games and whatnot, but at least 13% more for half of his games, or 10% than in NY.

[Ender]

I think that's a ridiculously retarded move by the Rangers. He's 35 this year and hasn't pitched over 100 innings since 2019.

He's definitely one of, if not, the best pitcher in baseball when healthy but thats a god damn big if. Gonna suck for anyone to face him in the AL West.

I'm still more worried about the Angels than the Rangers.

[Vlad27Trout27]

man, Othani about to be getting 40 mil+ per year next free agency. 

[Angels 1961]

14 minutes ago, Vlad27Trout27 said:

man, Othani about to be getting 40 mil+ per year next free agency. 

more like 45 to 50 with his age

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[Warfarin]

16 minutes ago, mmc said:

 

This strikes me as an attempt to get the Dodgers more involved with bidding.  Don't see why the Padres, who will get Tatis back, would offer a huge deal to Turner.  If they can lure the Dodgers in to the bidding, then they can try to squeeze more out of the Phillies, who are the heavy favorites to sign him.

[BTH]

18 minutes ago, mmc said:

 

If the Padres landed a SS, maybe Ha-Seong Kim would be available as a SS option.

As an aside, I wanted the Angels to pursue Kim last offseason and buy-low (potentially even getting the Padres to throw in a prospect to clear his salary) and then he went out and had a 3.7 fWAR season. Would’ve been nice.

[Angelsfan1984]

1 minute ago, Warfarin said:

This strikes me as an attempt to get the Dodgers more involved with bidding.  Don't see why the Padres, who will get Tatis back, would offer a huge deal to Turner.  If they can lure the Dodgers in to the bidding, then they can try to squeeze more out of the Phillies, who are the heavy favorites to sign him.

Wonder if they have a trade partner lined up for tatis? Could be they are tired of the headache. 

[Angels_Make_Me_Drink]

Don't they plan on moving Tatis to either 1B or the OF? They don't want him at SS, want to reduce his injury risk. Even though he's a headache, I dont think they're ready to give up on him. SD wants to win now. Their fan base is revitalized and they've got great talent. They're ready to go all in. 

I haven't been following the offseason rumor mill. Is Philly really considered the favorites for Trea? Swanson to Chicago?