Raul Ibanez heading to Angels

[ten ocho recon scout]

He and trout might work with the same throwing coach.

Thats where the infamous manny cut off could have worked wonders.

[stormngt]

The dislike for Matsui is very weird. He was our best hitter the one year he was here.

Yea......that 230 he was hitting for three montgs was awesome.

[gurn67]

Yea......that 230 he was hitting for three montgs was awesome.

.271 with 21 HR & 84 RBI's was about what was expected when he was signed. His OPS was .955 the second half once Sosh realized that, with his bad knees, he should have only been playing 5 days a week and only as a DH.

[Quinlanforthewin]

.271 with 21 HR & 84 RBI's was about what was expected when he was signed. His OPS was .955 the second half once Sosh realized that, with his bad knees, he should have only been playing 5 days a week and only as a DH.

 

Like many have said, he hit when it didn't matter.  When we were contending he was awful.  

[Angels_Make_Me_Drink]

Like many have said, he hit when it didn't matter.  When we were contending he was awful.  

Maybe we shouldn't have been out of it by the 2nd half

[Quinlanforthewin]

Maybe we shouldn't have been out of it by the 2nd half

 

And maybe we wouldnt have been if Matsui had hit in the first half

[Brent Maguire]

Like many have said, he hit when it didn't matter. When we were contending he was awful.

Angels weren't very good that year. Discrediting Matsui because the team wasn't good is...weird.

Are we supposed to discredit great players like Jose Fernandez and Stanton because they play for a terrible team?

[Docwaukee]

why are we discussing Matsui. 

 

We should be talking about letting Glaus go instead. 

[YouthofToday]

Jeff Mathis is one of the greatest Angels hitters of all time. He simply produced when it matters. He has an historic 213 wRC+ in the playoffs -- his exploits in the 2009 playoffs shows what supreme talented hitters can do when it really counts.

Being clutch when it counts matters. Bring back Mathis. He produces when it matters.

Edited December 19, 2013 by YouthofToday

[RallyMo]

Like many have said, he hit when it didn't matter. When we were contending he was awful.

...and that's important because other teams weren't trying to beat the Angels when they faced them at that point.

[Erstad Grit]

Why?

 

What's the reasoning?

 

He's 41, and hit 24 of his 29 home runs before the all star break last year, and fell way down after that.

 

Given his age, it's a little more reasonable to assume he's going to continue to decline rather than energetically increase his production.  

 

Well since he hit 29 last year and I said 20 I did factor some decline. 

 

To me it looks like being in the outfield wore him out. A DH only role will likely lead to him maintaining what he has done the last several years. 

[Quinlanforthewin]

...and that's important because other teams weren't trying to beat the Angels when they faced them at that point.

 

Oh f off.  All I meant was that is why fans were/are so down on him.  They don't have any good memories with him. 

[Ohtaniland]

Yes he's a DH

 

 

 

[Brent Maguire]

Lol at these videos of Ibanez in the field.

Like everyone has said, he better not see ANY time in the field.

[AZMike]

And maybe we wouldnt have been if Matsui had hit in the first half

Perhaps this year we might have been in contention had we not been saddled with the least clutch player in the American League putting up great stats on papers but failed to deliver when it counted

Edited December 19, 2013 by AZMike

[Quinlanforthewin]

Perhaps this year we might have been in contention had we not been saddled with the least clutch player in the American League putting up great stats on papers but failed to deliver when it counted

 

TRADE HIM!

[ELEVEN]

Perhaps this year we might have been in contention had we not been saddled with the least clutch player in the American League putting up great stats on papers but failed to deliver when it counted

Big Papi is 12th on that list.

Good thing too, or those chowds would be insufferable if that guy came through when it mattered.

[LightTheHalo]

For those worried about Ibanez's second-half decline, remember games in the first half count just as much as the ones in the second half.

 

If he comes reasonably close to last season's first half and the Angels enter July some healthy amount of games over .500 for the first time in awhile, I won't really care what he does in the second half.

[Homebrewer]

Have some faith. He will be fine if used properly....lol

Too bad Scioscia is still managing, because he will figure out a way to make it wrong.

[Docwaukee]

Have some faith. He will be fine if used properly....lol

Too bad Scioscia is still managing, because he will figure out a way to make it wrong.

jeebus dude. 

[Homebrewer]

jeebus dude. 

What?

What in the past makes you think that Scioscia won't be putting this 40+ guy in the outfield 2-3-4 times a week over a rookie?

Sorry if I don't trust Scioscia to use a guy, who is a DH, as a DH.

He has never done it before, I don't see him suddenly doing it now.

[Sciosciapath]

The good news is he won't hit 10 homers against us like he usually does.

[vlad27]

Agreed. Dude won't cost much and at worst he gives them a lefty bat off the bench with some power.

my thoughts exactly

[Homebrewer]

He is a team killer, because he is a timely hitter. I just hope Scioscia can use him to the team's advantage.

[Brent Maguire]

He is a team killer, because he is a timely hitter. I just hope Scioscia can use him to the team's advantage.

Scioscia doesn't have to do much except DH him. 

 

Shuck is the 4th outfielder anyways so I see no reason why Mike would need to put Ibanez out there.