A theory on David Freese

[bloodbrother]

Are we sure he isn't really Vernon Wells in disguise? Has anybody seen Vernon lately?

[AngelsFaninGA]

He's worse than Wells. Wells could at least be counted on to hit .200 and get an occasional meaningless homer. Freese can't even do that much. 

[Willy J.]

The Angels are becoming an old folks home for shot ex-Cardinal players.

[DoubleOffTheWall]

Freese doesnt like baseball anymore, dude is more interested in partying

[mulwin444]

My theory is he's not good at the game of baseball anymore and Dipoto got hosed on the deal for him.

[Jason]

He stinks. No theory needed.

[OregonLAA]

My theory is he's not good at the game of baseball anymore and Dipoto got hosed on the deal for him.[/quote

Hosed? I wasn't aware Bourjos and Grichuk have done jack shit for the Cardinals

[ten ocho recon scout]

You guys are missing the point.

Freese was the throw in when we targetted salas.

[bloodbrother]

My theory is he's not good at the game of baseball anymore and Dipoto got hosed on the deal for him.[/quote

Hosed? I wasn't aware Bourjos and Grichuk have done jack shit for the Cardinals

 

 

Halos could really use both of them right now with Calhoun/Hamilton hurt. Grichuk's putting up a .955 OPS in AAA

 

they got hosed. They gave up 2 younger, cheaper pieces with upside for older, more expensive, crappier players. I'm not even a big Bourjos fan, but if that was the best return they could get...should have just held onto him. At least his D gives him some value, Freese can't even say that

[gurn67]

It's the curse.

[Inside Pitch]

Hosed? I wasn't aware Bourjos and Grichuk have done jack shit for the Cardinals

 

Hosed is maybe too strong a word but that .955 OPS Grichuk is putting up in AAA isn't awful, and say what you will about Bourjos, he's managed an .826 OPS since going hitless in his first 5 games.

Edited April 20, 2014 by Inside Pitch

[mulwin444]

My theory is he's not good at the game of baseball anymore and Dipoto got hosed on the deal for him.[/quote

Hosed? I wasn't aware Bourjos and Grichuk have done jack shit for the Cardinals

Bourjos is an elite defensive CF and is still young and cheap...Grichuk is young, talented and progressing normally through the minor league ranks.  

 

We gave up young, cheap talent for an oft-injured, more expensive 3B who hasn't done anything in 2 years and a nothing BP arm.

 

Dipoto got hosed...the move was marked by overly simplistic thinking on his part and the Cardinals continue to be young, cheap and talented by making moves like this one.  The Angels would have been better off keeping these two and going with Fields/Green/Stewart/whatever-NL-West-former-reject-prospect at 3B.  Right now, you'd at least have Bourjos in place of one of Shuck/Cowgill

Edited April 20, 2014 by mulwin444

[eligrba]

Reincarnation of Brandon Wood.

[Scott34]

This trade was horrible in November and it's horrible now. Grichuk is going to at least be solid and Freese is god awful. Lucho would clearly be better at this point and he's making the minimum.

[mtangelsfan]

I felt it was a bad trade when it was made.  However, it has still only been a month.  I'm not ready to make some kind of final determination on this.

 

That being said, Freese looks really, really bad so far.  Hope he figures it out.

[tdawg87]

Trades like the one for Freese are exactly why this organization is in the position it is in. It isn't so much the trade itself as the philosophy behind it: Trade young, cost-controlled talent for bandaids.

[HaloCory22]

Freese is bad. I'd rather have Stewart at 3rd. Freese is a free agent after this year right?

[DMVol]

This trade was horrible in November and it's horrible now. Grichuk is going to at least be solid and Freese is god awful. Lucho would clearly be better at this point and he's making the minimum.

+1....Trumbo trade may work out but this one was DOA....just a horrible move....period....

[AngelsAndRamsFan]

Freese is bad. I'd rather have Stewart at 3rd. Freese is a free agent after this year right?

No, he's still under team control for one more year. The Angels can non-tender him in the offseason and they won't owe him anything.

[Redondo]

Trades like the one for Freese are exactly why this organization is in the position it is in. It isn't so much the trade itself as the philosophy behind it: Trade young, cost-controlled talent for bandaids.

 

Agree. Why make these kinds of trades?

[Angelfish]

Can we call him Deep Freese yet, or does that imply that he has power?

[Ohtaniland]

Freese dried.

[UndertheHalo]

I would also rather see Stewart get a shot at establishing himself as an every day player at this point.  On the trade though, I don't really have a problem with it.  We traded from a position of depth.  PB would have been a 4th outfielder for us and like Freese is constantly injured.  We have not had a real 3B since Troy Glaus, it was worth a shot imo.  The season is still young and maybe Freese works out, but he certainly looks awful now.  In the end I dont think we really lost much in this trade.  Grichuck....who knows.

[ELEVEN]

Freeser burn

[AngelArcher]

No, he's still under team control for one more year. The Angels can non-tender him in the offseason and they won't owe him anything.

 

Which means the Angels will tender him and he'll get a raise. Jeppy says hi.