A handful of the remaining FA starting pitchers: any interest?

[rafibomb]

Starters (projected WAR on FanGraphs)

Carlos Rodon (3.8)

Clayton Kershaw (3.1)

Yusei Kikuchi (2.2)

Zack Greinke (1.9)

Michael Pineda (1.6)

Tyler Anderson (1.3)

Matthew Boyd (1.3)

Johnny Cueto (1.0)

Danny Duffy (2.1)

Kwang Hyun Kim (1.3)

[rafibomb]

To add on here are some of the remaining relievers:

Colin McHugh

Kenley Jansen

Ryan Tepera

Andrew Chafin

Tony Watson

STEVE CISHEK

Richard Rodriguez

Joe Kelly

Adam Ottavino

Chris Martin

Jimmy Nelson

Archie Bradley

[angelsnationtalk]

If Arte is all about them 1yr pitching deals then screw it, sign Rodon...

[rafibomb]

Just now, angelsnationtalk said:

If Arte is all about them 1yr pitching deals then screw it, sign Rodon...

Honestly, my ideal contract for Rodon would be 2-3 years at around $16 million a year. He gets more guaranteed money and re-enters the market at 30-31 years old.

[HanfordGuy]

17 minutes ago, rafibomb said:

Jimmy Nelson

He’s having TJS and another procedure. He probably won’t pitch in 2022.

[UtahHalo]

If Greinke can be had for anywhere near the $9MM estimated market value on Spotrac, the Angels should be all over that.

[UndertheHalo]

I think the Angels should get Ryan Tepera.  Of those pitchers the one that I think has the lowest risk is Yusei Kikuchi.  So I’m mildly interested in him.  Rodon is interesting as well but mega health risk.  Given the injury at the end of last season I have no interest in Kershaw.  The others, meh.  Maybe Duffy has some use as back end/spot starter. 

Edited December 3, 2021 by UndertheHalo

[Lazorko Saves]

2 hours ago, rafibomb said:

STEVE CISHEK

[Inside Pitch]

1 hour ago, UndertheHalo said:

I think the Angels should get Ryan Tepera.  Of those pitchers the one that I think has the lowest risk is Yusei Kikuchi.  So I’m mildly interested in him.  Rodon is interesting as well but mega health risk.  Given the injury at the end of last season I have no interest in Kershaw.  The others, meh.  Maybe Duffy has some use as back end/spot starter. 

Tepera shows up every season and bores his way to a solid season.  One of those guys that has been a solid slop reliever.  

[Wisconsin27]

We do this every year when our FO (or Arte) fails to land a quality starter on a multi-year deal.  Tiresome.

[rafibomb]

4 hours ago, UtahHalo said:

If Greinke can be had for anywhere near the $9MM estimated market value on Spotrac, the Angels should be all over that.

I'm all aboard this as well if we don't get Rodon. Just enough depth and more veteran presence to have Detmers and Canning on the outside looking in when the season starts with no pressure to perform.

Edited December 3, 2021 by rafibomb

[Mark68]

Rodon, Tepera, Chafin

[tomsred]

Rodon, Tepera, Watson

[rageous]

At this point they are better off solidifying the bullpen with 2 more dependable arms.  It will be cheaper than trying to sign a SP.

[GoodTimesGoneBad]

Greinke and McHugh combined would cost less than Stroman and probably help the team more. 

[wopphil]

I’d be happy with Greinke. He is about as sure if a bet as there is to give you consistent, 3/4 production, while staying healthy. 

[Warfarin]

I have to assume something is wrong with Rodon health wise.  I've mentioned it a few times, but he is a slam dunk QO candidate, so the fact that the White Sox didn't offer it to him is a red flag to me.  I am assuming Kershaw will either re-sign with the Dodgers or go play for the Rangers.

Danny Duffy might be worth taking a flyer on.  He's been a solid, if unspectacular, pitcher in the recent past.  Not a high ceiling, but he'd likely be able to provide some decent innings and can likely be had on a very cheap deal (1yr, 2-3mil?) given recent health issues.

As it stands, I'm assuming we have ~10-20mil left to spend, assuming Arte either stops at last year's payroll of increases it a bit further.  I am assuming we will see, at the minimum, another reliever, middle infielder, and backup catcher.  

[AngelsFaninGA]

13 hours ago, HanfordGuy said:

He’s having TJS and another procedure. He probably won’t pitch in 2022.

Perfect. I'm in

[Dtwncbad]

14 hours ago, rafibomb said:

To add on here are some of the remaining relievers:

Colin McHugh

Kenley Jansen

Ryan Tepera

Andrew Chafin

Tony Watson

STEVE CISHEK

Richard Rodriguez

Joe Kelly

Adam Ottavino

Chris Martin

Jimmy Nelson

Archie Bradley

Unless they say they want to be a starter and the Angels sign them and we all just ridiculously assume they are probably better as a starter than the other actual starters already in the organization.

[Slegnaac]

15 hours ago, rafibomb said:

Starters (projected WAR on FanGraphs)

Carlos Rodon (3.8)

Clayton Kershaw (3.1)

Yusei Kikuchi (2.2)

Zack Greinke (1.9)

Michael Pineda (1.6)

Tyler Anderson (1.3)

Matthew Boyd (1.3)

Johnny Cueto (1.0)

Danny Duffy (2.1)

Kwang Hyun Kim (1.3)

The bigger question is, would any of them be willing to change their routine to pitching every sixth day?

[Hubs]

Rodon, Cishek, Watson, Duffy.

But honestly at this point I pivot and try to sign Trevor Story to a 21-22M deal for 2 seasons.

See if he wants to re-enter the market in two years after establishing he can hit outside Coors.

 

 

[floplag]

16 hours ago, rafibomb said:

Starters (projected WAR on FanGraphs)

Carlos Rodon (3.8)

Clayton Kershaw (3.1)

Yusei Kikuchi (2.2)

Zack Greinke (1.9)

Michael Pineda (1.6)

Tyler Anderson (1.3)

Matthew Boyd (1.3)

Johnny Cueto (1.0)

Danny Duffy (2.1)

Kwang Hyun Kim (1.3)

Im actually liking the shorter term concept, ive warmed to it, the reality is we dont need 5-10 year guys, we have a ton of kids that will be ready in a couple years.  Sure an ace would be nice, but it isnt requisite if we make the right moves elsewhere.
This class had a lot of big names, none that had zero concerns.
There are still some options here that make some sense, and some i just cant see.
 

[floplag]

16 hours ago, rafibomb said:

To add on here are some of the remaining relievers:

Colin McHugh

Kenley Jansen

Ryan Tepera

Andrew Chafin

Tony Watson

STEVE CISHEK

Richard Rodriguez

Joe Kelly

Adam Ottavino

Chris Martin

Jimmy Nelson

Archie Bradley

This is the list i think im most concerned with.
We still need at least one more top bullpen arm in my opinion. 
There is a lot of help on this list to be had.  
Heck even Cishek didn't pitch poorly overall and finished way better than he started. 

[Stradling]

Flop, you and I agree.  I would spend money on McHugh and everyone seems to like Tepera, but I am unfamiliar with him.  

[Don]

Greinke and Duffy for sure. Kershaw if the price is right.