Breaking: Alex Cobb TRADED to Angels for Jahmai Jones

[Chuck]

5 minutes ago, SoWhat said:

Oof. I’ve been obsessed with the Angels/baseball my whole life, but for the past 3-4 years I’ve lost a whole lot of interest in it and this offseason puts the nail in the coffin. I have zero desire to watch and support this team. Welp, at least I have my Lakers. Oh and FREE TROUT 

@SoWhat how did you handle the 90's through 2001 and the start of 2002?

[Angel Oracle]

I guess this could be better than paying Odorizzi $12-14 million per year for 2-3 years.

One caveat though is the lack of Ks.   Even though he gives up a high GB%, that’s still a lot of batted balls in play.

Need a good defensive RF now, so that only Upton is a defensive weakness.

And need one more solid late innings reliever.

Edited February 1, 2021 by Angel Oracle

[Lou]

10 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

@SoWhat how did you handle the 90's through 2001 and the start of 2002?

[AngelsFaninGA]

Crap for crap deal. Ideally we're not in a position where he has to start too many games. 

[bloodbrother]

In the end it's a big nothing burger. Nothing given up that's of any real value and nothing gained that's of any real value.

[Second Base]

Hopefully Minasian sees something that no one else sees, otherwise, I really don't understand. But sometimes these moves work out. Like when Eppler acquired Simmons and traded for Bundy. 

Both looked like really stupid moves at first glance. Simmons was a light hitting shortstop and they gave up a better hitting shortstop, and two very good pitching prospects. And Bundy last year, was acquired for a nothing mix of pitching prospects, and Bundy himself wasn't a very good pitcher. 

Hindsight says the Angels sold high on every piece of the Simmons trade and bought low on Simmons. And Bundy was a small adjustment away from beginning an extremely good starting pitcher. If Baltimore couldn't recognize that, then it's their fault. 

So perhaps Alex Cobb is similar to Bundy. But even if he is, he's making more money, has only one year of control, and he cost a decent prospect. 

The only way this deal works out is if Cobb has a Bundy developmental leap in him and Jahmai Jones never fully develops into a useful player in the major leagues.

[ettin]

47 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

I'd really hate to deal Canning because I still believe he has some of that Trevor Bauer in him. 

Wait are Bauer and Canning together?

[ettin]

35 minutes ago, Taylor said:

That joke was a little corny.

 

 

 

 

 

I'll see myself out.

You have a good ear for puns.

[ettin]

Just now, ettin said:

You have a good ear for puns.

@Taylor I am not Internet stalk-ing you by the way.

[Dtwncbad]

1 minute ago, ettin said:

Wait are Bauer and Canning together?

Wait.  They are both pitchers.

[Vlad27Trout27]

Trade still hasn't be finalized? 

what's taking this long?

[greginpsca]

1 minute ago, Vlad27Trout27 said:

Trade still hasn't be finalized? 

what's taking this long?

Physicals?

[rafibomb]

1 minute ago, Vlad27Trout27 said:

Trade still hasn't be finalized? 

what's taking this long?

 

 

[Angel Oracle]

11 minutes ago, ettin said:

Wait are Bauer and Canning together?

Lou?

[greginpsca]

Just now, Angel Oracle said:

Lou?

Bruins?

[NorCal Halo]

19 minutes ago, Lou said:

That's a young Bryce Harper, right?

[Erstad Grit]

15 minutes ago, ettin said:

You have a good ear for puns.

he's a-maize-ing 

[Derek]

I hate this team sometimes...

They need to get Bauer or even Castillo and if not it’s the same only Angels. A bunch of 3-5 starters...

[angels1963]

to bad the deal wasn't for John Means instead of Cobb !!!

[Lou]

I miss angels1962 

[Angelsjunky]

What doesn't make sense to me is that there are still plenty of #4-5 starters on the free agent market that the Angels could have had for the same cost but without giving up a prospect. Maybe Minasian sees something in Cobb, but my guess it is just the Proven Veteran thing and we're seeing the first signs that Perry is a bit on the traditional side.

It is a bad trade, but not devastating. Giving up Jones is unfortunate--especially considering his versatility that could have seen him as an emergency 4th OF--but he almost certainly didn't have a starting role on the Angels, whether in the near or long-term.

[Angelsjunky]

2 hours ago, Stradling said:

Now we are going to enter the part of the thread where we over value Jam Jones because he played well for a week last year.

But I guess its the part of the thread where Strad jumps in and berates anyone who is critical of the Angels. 

[Inside Pitch]

 

Alex Cobb 2020 = Smoke and mirrors.   

[tdawg87]

One thing, and I'm sure it has been mentioned, is Cobb has been a pretty extreme groundball pitcher. 

Just something to factor in when looking at our infield.

[totdprods]

Hoping that whatever methods they used to evaluate Teheran, Cahill, Harvey went out the door with Eppler, be it in the data analytics dept or pro scouting, otherwise Cobb and Quintana will be deja vu.