Brad Ausmus on the collision at homeplate

[tempe85]

This is the best angle for the collision I've found: 

https://imgur.com/gallery/X4iTYVP#dfb15yp

It seems pretty obvious to me that the outside of the plate is open the entire time he is running, Lucroy barely moves, and the runner unnecessarily sidesteps into him. 

[tdawg87]

This is my favorite thread.

[Lhalo]

30 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

This is my favorite thread.

It’s no ghost shark but it has potential. 

[Angel Oracle]

8 hours ago, Lou said:

Yadier Molina calls out Jake Marisnick for violent home plate collision in expletive-filled rant

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/yadier-molina-home-plate-collision-expletive-filled-rant-044742494.html

There’s already tension with the Cards and Astros.   Astros pissed at the Cards’ alleged spying several years back, and now this.

A fun series when they next meet

[Angel Oracle]

9 hours ago, Calzone 2 said:

Marisnick would have to be an acrobat. Remember that Lucroy never has possession of the ball so therefore is also in violation.

Ricochet would be impressed.

[eligrba]

If you watch the replay closely, there appears to be something unusual happening at the grassy knoll. 

[Angel Oracle]

Lucroy looked to be in a similar position to how the Red Sox catcher Gedman was positioned when Ruppert Jones scores the tying run in the bottom of the 9th after Henderson’s HR in the top of it in ALCS game 5 in 1986.

Yet, Jones was able to head first hook slide around Gedman to tie the game up.

I guess the question is, as Jeff alluded to earlier, when running in a straight line, does that make it more difficult to hook slide?

[floplag]

9 hours ago, Troll Daddy said:

Lucroy was standing 10 feet in front of the plate  ...  maybe he should of started the hook slide as he’s rounding third base  

All he had to do was stay outside the line, he chose to move in.  
Im not beating this horse any further if you cant see by now with everything youve been shown, you arent going to see it. 

[the dude abides]

Nice job of Robles to nudge Marisnick's punk ass away from Lucroy during the aftermath.

[Mark PT]

16 hours ago, Kody Mac said:

2 things stand out immediately to me...

1) Marisnik has the back half of the plate all day the whole way on that play, yet he launches himself at the front portion of the plate with his shoulder down. 

 

2) How often do players try and slide in safe to home on the front part of the plate? Especially when they can see the whole back half wide open?

 

Even if it wasn’t intentionally dirty, it’s a dumb facking play that has me questioning Marisnik’s intelligence. 

Totally dirty. As you said the back half of the plate was wide open by design. It was intentional contact and violent contact to the head. Should have been ejected and should be suspended. Regardless of whether the contact to the head was intentional or not, it still was made. If they are serious about protecting players and their financial asses, they should suspend him to the max.

[yk9001]

That rule is one of the best ideas that MLB has had.  There is no reason for catchers to be made into human pinatas.

The second part is enforcing it.

[floplag]

26 minutes ago, yk9001 said:

That rule is one of the best ideas that MLB has had.  There is no reason for catchers to be made into human pinatas.

The second part is enforcing it.

This is clearly to me the most egregious incident since the rule was changed, it need to be dealt with in an appropriate manner. 

[tdawg87]

Marisnick has a 40 page manifesto 

[Troll Daddy]

35 minutes ago, floplag said:

This is clearly to me the most egregious incident since the rule was changed, it need to be dealt with in an appropriate manner. 

[floplag]

1 hour ago, Troll Daddy said:

well shit TD what do you think merits action then if a possible concussion and broken nose dont?  I know well wait till someone gets actually sawed in half... that will work.  right? 

[Ausmusfan]

51 minutes ago, floplag said:

This is clearly to me the most egregious incident since the rule was changed, it need to be dealt with in an appropriate manner. 

The Angels should sign John Lackey to a 24 hour contract , the next time the Stros. are in town. He knows what to do. 

 

[Claude]

26 minutes ago, Troll Daddy said:

Being already 12.5 games out at the break, I’m looking forward to football season. 

[Broad Street]

I’m not a fan of throwing at another player intentionally. Our pitchers don’t have the greatest control as it is, nor do I want any extra runners on base. 

[Claude]

14 minutes ago, Kody Mac said:

I’m not a fan of throwing at another player intentionally. Our pitchers don’t have the greatest control as it is, nor do I want any extra runners on base. 

I completely agree. That’s why I’m confused about the WeNasty thing. That nickname is more of a Dodger type thing. Our organization is far from being nasty. We are struggling to get out of 4th place. We certainly don’t need to be throwing at hitters and face retaliation on Trout or Ohtani. Let’s BeNasty in the postseason.

[tdawg87]

1 minute ago, Calzone 2 said:

I completely agree. That’s why I’m confused about the WeNasty thing. That nickname is more of a Dodger type thing. Our organization is far from being nasty. We are struggling to get out of 4th place. We certainly don’t need to be throwing at hitters and face retaliation on Trout or Ohtani. Let’s BeNasty in the postseason.

[Angel Dog and Beer]

7 hours ago, tempe85 said:

This is the best angle for the collision I've found: 

https://imgur.com/gallery/X4iTYVP#dfb15yp

It seems pretty obvious to me that the outside of the plate is open the entire time he is running, Lucroy barely moves, and the runner unnecessarily sidesteps into him. 

This is a good angle. Shows exactly what Marisnick wanted to do. 

[Fish Oil]

8 hours ago, tempe85 said:

This is the best angle for the collision I've found: 

https://imgur.com/gallery/X4iTYVP#dfb15yp

It seems pretty obvious to me that the outside of the plate is open the entire time he is running, Lucroy barely moves, and the runner unnecessarily sidesteps into him. 

I don't see how anyone can watch this and still maintain that it was unintentional.

[Docwaukee]

4 minutes ago, Angel Dog and Beer said:

This is a good angle. Shows exactly what Marisnick wanted to do. 

yep.  made a specific move to go after Lucroy when the outside was clearly available.  The more video I see, the more I realize that it was clearly intentional.  

[Stradling]

54 minutes ago, Calzone 2 said:

Being already 12.5 games out at the break, I’m looking forward to football season. 

Perfect, we will see you next season.  

[Slegnaac]

48 minutes ago, Kody Mac said:

I’m not a fan of throwing at another player intentionally. Our pitchers don’t have the greatest control as it is, nor do I want any extra runners on base. 

Or starting a war where Trout or Ohtani could be put in harm's way.