Dipoto and Mike are staying??

[mtangelsfan]

I would take a 60 year old Kuroda over a 28 year old Blanton.

[tdawg87]

I would take Jim Abbot throwing right handed over Blanton in any era.

[mtangelsfan]

LOL

[mp170.6]

That is the biggest concern.  If you bring in somebody new, are they going to be better than Sosh?

 

Sounds like you're presuming that any replacement will be worse.  Yes or no?

[SoWhat]

Kuroda is 38 years old. Do we really want to hand him a two-year deal? It would have the potential of making Joe Blanton look like the second coming of Justin Verlander.

He also had a bad second half, he posted a 4.25 ERA

[jshep]

Didn't say that.  However it is the reason I believe.  If you are going to make a claim of knowledge, you should be willing to back it up, don't you think?

 

So you didn't say that that's the only reason for him to not share names, just that that's why he won't share names. Got it.

 

I think there's plenty of reasons besides "they don't exist" for Scott to not want to share those names of players who told him something about Scioscia, especially on an open message board that is visited by people with connections to the Angels' organization.

 

I also don't think that Scott sharing a list of those names would sway anyone anyway. The people whose opinion on Scioscia is reinforced by whoever those players are would agree with it. Those who disagree would dismiss it as those players being bitter because they feel they've been denied an opportunity because of Scioscia or whatever(like when Trevor Bell criticized him).

[Scott34]

Yeah let me give up all the connections I've made after 2+ years for writing for this site.  Good call.

[mtangelsfan]

Sounds like you're presuming that any replacement will be worse.  Yes or no?

 

Absolutely not.  It's very possible they find somebody better.

[Scott34]

Coming from the guy who said Frieri had a devastating slider the day he was acquired. This should definitely be taken with a grain of salt

 

I'd still say that.

[SoWhat]

To get back on topic

If Dipoto was going to be fired, I think it would've happened immediately, that way the search for a GM would be resolved before the signings begin. If anyone gets let go of, it'll be sosh

[mtangelsfan]

Yeah let me give up all the connections I've made after 2+ years for writing for this site.  Good call.

 

Then don't make the claim Scott.  It's empty.

[jshep]

To get back on topic

If Dipoto was going to be fired, I think it would've happened immediately, that way the search for a GM would be resolved before the signings begin. If anyone gets let go of, it'll be sosh

 

Ya, considering the Scioscia situation is more complex with the contract and the chance of trading him instead, I'm inclined to agree.

 

I don't quite buy the idea that they still haven't made a decision. And it would not be a great sign if that was the case, IMO.

Edited October 6, 2013 by jshep

[AngelsLongBall]

I can't believe I read all this

[nate]

I would take Jim Abbot throwing right handed over Blanton in any era.

 

To soon!!!

[James]

Then don't make the claim Scott.  It's empty.

Exactly. Does it really matter if some players don't like Mike anyways? Dusty baker is viewed by players as one of the top managers to play for, this is well known. Where is Dusty right now? These are grown men, if they can't play hard for a boss that isn't their favorite I really wouldn't want them around anyways. 

 

I just don't agree that a select handful of players, out of the many who have played for Mike, who didn't or still do not like MS's style should even be part of the discussion when talking about retaining or dismissing him as manager.  

Edited October 6, 2013 by James

[ten ocho recon scout]

Ill go when they're good again. Why would I waste my money to frustrate myself?

I understand that way of thinking. Dont have a problem with it. But what if the players said 'ill start trying again when our fans get better'

[jshep]

I understand that way of thinking. Dont have a problem with it. But what if the players said 'ill start trying again when our fans get better'

 

Then those players wouldn't be doing their jobs.

[Scott34]

I understand that way of thinking. Dont have a problem with it. But what if the players said 'ill start trying again when our fans get better'

 

Then they should go play for Tampa

[AngelsAndRamsFan]

I understand that way of thinking. Dont have a problem with it. But what if the players said 'ill start trying again when our fans get better'

There's no comparison. It's there job and they get paid a ton of money. Most players don't have enough talent to make it in MLB "without trying" or going through the motions.

[tomsred]

I understand that way of thinking. Dont have a problem with it. But what if the players said 'ill start trying again when our fans get better'

LOL, baseball fans will never get better, we're all wackos!

[SoWhat]

I don't think Arte's ego would let him do this, but he could be waiting on the Dodgers to be finished with the playoffs in order to trade him there. If the Angels were retaining Scioscia then it would've been announced by now, and if the Dodgers wanted Mattingly to return, I think they would've already picked up his option. This quote from ESPN is right

"Why wait on a making a no-brainer decision that would be in the best interest of the team and in the process avoid any potential distractions later?"

[Vegas Halo Fan]

Then don't make the claim Scott.  It's empty.

 

This. Don't ever report anything again unless you're willing to spill all the details, including who told you anything in confidence. You may never get anything again, but it will make for a good story once. /sarcasm

 

I don't understand why some people demand details from people who are close to the club and have an idea what is going on, and insist that the story is false if they don't give them up.

[mtangelsfan]

This. Don't ever report anything again unless you're willing to spill all the details, including who told you anything in confidence. You may never get anything again, but it will make for a good story once. /sarcasm

 

I don't understand why some people demand details from people who are close to the club and have an idea what is going on, and insist that the story is false if they don't give them up.

 

Because then anyone can claim anything.  You have to have credibility to make claims of fact.  That or have proof.  To me, Scott has neither.

[Scott34]

Because then anyone can claim anything.  You have to have credibility to make claims of fact.  That or have proof.  To me, Scott has neither.

 

At the risk of sounding douchey, none of my call-up/trade news is proof/credibility?

[Vegas Halo Fan]

At the risk of sounding douchey, none of my call-up/trade news is proof/credibility?

 

Don't try to make sense of it.