Ohtani or Judge as MVP?

[AngelsLakersFan]

2 minutes ago, Taylor said:

LMAOnade

Well done

[Stradling]

14 minutes ago, Taylor said:

LMAOnade

this 

16 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

When life gives you lemons, make LOLsmonade.

Please forgive me..

@ettin I love you, maaaaan.

Not this

 

IP is a dumbass haha. 

[Inside Pitch]

I do what I want....

[Taylor]

24 minutes ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

Well done

It's an old pull from the early days of internet shenanigans, before memes were a thing.

ROFLcopter and LOLlerskates were two others.

[Taylor]

Some examples of ancient memes (early 2000s days).

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/lol-ascii/photos/sort/score/page/1?grid=1&nsfw=true

[Sully151]

There was one CO-MVP in 1979. What are the chances of this legitimately happening, or MLB manipulating the vote to make sure it happens?

[Torridd]

On 9/15/2022 at 11:22 PM, Taylor said:

Not that this has any bearing on the MVP race, but which player is more likely to repeat their 2022 performance in the future?

Ohtani.

[Redondo]

• Judge hits 58th homer, within three of AL record

[ten ocho recon scout]

2 hours ago, Inside Pitch said:

 

Basically, I'm just in it for the LOLs at this point.

I think this sums up every Angel fan everywhere.

Y9u hope they win, but you keep waiting to hear we signed Zach Cozart again or something.

[AngelsLakersFan]

1 hour ago, Taylor said:

It's an old pull from the early days of internet shenanigans, before memes were a thing.

ROFLcopter and LOLlerskates were two others.

I remember those two but not the LMAOnade oddly enough

[Jeff Fletcher]

1 hour ago, Sully151 said:

There was one CO-MVP in 1979. What are the chances of this legitimately happening, or MLB manipulating the vote to make sure it happens?

I can promise you MLB can’t manipulate the vote. I have a role in the voting process.

And I’d say a tie is possible but unlikely. 

[beatlesrule]

1 hour ago, Redondo said:

• Judge hits 58th homer, within three of AL record

Hit his 59th too. Two within Al record.

[wopphil]

I think Judge wins the award easy, but it’s amazing that Ohtani has more or less managed to replicate what he did last year (which is something I don’t think anyone expected). 

[tdawg87]

I think today has pretty much sealed it for Judge. 

The fact it's even as close as it is is testament to how amazing Ohtani is. 

[m0nkey]

4 hours ago, tdawg87 said:

I think today has pretty much sealed it for Judge. 

The fact it's even as close as it is is testament to how amazing Ohtani is. 

This is the right take. Judge is going to win and is having a historic season and destroying the leaderboards compared to the rest of baseball (let alone his AL only competition) yet Ohtani is still making it a discussion. 

[ScottT]

I think Judge wins, but it's such a small group of voters. You never know 

[Docwaukee]

5 hours ago, tdawg87 said:

I think today has pretty much sealed it for Judge. 

The fact it's even as close as it is is testament to how amazing Ohtani is. 

I think the voting will make us realize that it was never really that close.  

[Angel Oracle]

13 hours ago, Sully151 said:

There was one CO-MVP in 1979. What are the chances of this legitimately happening, or MLB manipulating the vote to make sure it happens?

I had forgotten that Stargell and Hernandez shared the NL MVP.

[Chuck]

 

[Duren, Duren]

In future history, Ohtani will likely be remembered as the more  impressive player than Judge.

Especially when the New York bias of today  is filtered out. 

Judge's season could be an outlier while Ohtani has shown two way elite status like only Ruth most of his healthy  career. And now has passed almost all of Ruth's pitching numbers..

But for this season the contrast between the Yankees and Angels may factor into the voting. Even if just as a secondary reason to support Judge. 

IF Judge slumps and Ohtani finishes on a hot streak it could still be a close vote. But I think the momentum is with Judge now as he closes in on the Maris record. Ohtanii though is making a serious case for the Cy Young as well. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Blarg]

Ruth only won 1 mvp award. He had a 14.2 WAR season in 1923. The following year he hit .378/.513/.739/1.252 with 46 homed runs leading every player in baseball, had an 11.8 WAR and didn't receive one vote on the MVP ballot. 

Walter Johnson won that year with a 7.5 WAR as a pitcher. He was no Babe Ruth. 

 

[beatlesrule]

5 minutes ago, Blarg said:

Ruth only won 1 mvp award. He had a 14.2 WAR season in 1923. The following year he hit .378/.513/.739/1.252 with 46 homed runs leading every player in baseball, had an 11.8 WAR and didn't receive one vote on the MVP ballot. 

Walter Johnson won that year with a 7.5 WAR as a pitcher. He was no Babe Ruth. 

 

Yeah, I was shocked to find out that Ruth only won 1 MVP. Not sure if voting was different back then or what was going on.

[jsnpritchett]

14 minutes ago, Blarg said:

Ruth only won 1 mvp award. He had a 14.2 WAR season in 1923. The following year he hit .378/.513/.739/1.252 with 46 homed runs leading every player in baseball, had an 11.8 WAR and didn't receive one vote on the MVP ballot. 

Walter Johnson won that year with a 7.5 WAR as a pitcher. He was no Babe Ruth. 

 

 

7 minutes ago, beatlesrule said:

Yeah, I was shocked to find out that Ruth only won 1 MVP. Not sure if voting was different back then or what was going on.

Yes, the rules were different.  From '22-'29, if you won the award, you weren't eligible to win it again.  That's why Ruth only won one.

[Jason]

7 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

 

Yes, the rules were different.  From '22-'29, if you won the award, you weren't eligible to win it again.  That's why Ruth only won one.

That's like giving out participation trophies 

[jsnpritchett]

4 minutes ago, Jason said:

That's like giving out participation trophies 

Things were very different back then!  It technically wasn't even an "MVP" award:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_League_Baseball_Most_Valuable_Player_Award#League_Awards_(1922–1929)

"In 1922 the American League created a new award to honor "the baseball player who is of the greatest all-around service to his club". Winners, voted on by a committee of eight baseball writers chaired by James Crusinberry, received a bronze medal and a cash prize.Voters were required to select one player from each team and player-coaches and prior award winners were ineligible. Famously, these criteria resulted in Babe Ruth winning only a single MVP award before it was dropped after 1928. The National League award, without these restrictions, lasted from 1924 to 1929.^"