The Official 2020-2021 Hot Stove Offseason Thread

[vladdy#27]

This could fill two holes.

[kevinb]

Just now, vladdy#27 said:

This could fill two holes.

[Lou]

1 minute ago, vladdy#27 said:

This could fill two holes.

Let it go, gentlemen.

[AngelsLakersFan]

4 minutes ago, vladdy#27 said:

This could fill two holes.

[eligrba]

5 minutes ago, vladdy#27 said:

This could fill two holes.

Ahem..... @tdawg87

[eligrba]

5 minutes ago, Lou said:

Let it go, gentlemen.

I’m a maybe.

[mmc]

 

[Warfarin]

2 minutes ago, mmc said:

 

This should hopefully alleviate concerns.  Maybe Arte will indeed spend big this winter.  We'll see what happens.

[Second Base]

12 minutes ago, mmc said:

 

[Warfarin]

 

 

[wopphil]

7 minutes ago, Warfarin said:

 

 

Makes sense. Drive up the price so perhaps the Mets are stretched thin on Bauer or Realmuto. 

[Warfarin]

3 minutes ago, wopphil said:

Makes sense. Drive up the price so perhaps the Mets are stretched thin on Bauer or Realmuto. 

Arte was one of the few owners who did not vote in favor of Cohen taking over the Mets.  Maybe he just doesn't like him, lol.

[RedEyeBleed]

I’m all in on signing Bauer and trading for Blake Snell. Get it done Perry.  

[Docwaukee]

33 minutes ago, Warfarin said:

 

 

the Angels wouldn't waste their time unless they had true interest.  

[Warfarin]

1 minute ago, Dochalo said:

the Angels wouldn't waste their time unless they had true interest.  

It might be moreso a rumor floated out by McCann's agent to help extract a bit more out of the Mets, rather than the Angels actually feigning interest.

[mmc]

2 minutes ago, Dochalo said:

the Angels wouldn't waste their time unless they had true interest.  

I don't think he's referring to what the Angels are doing, he's referring to the media/agents/"sources" pushing the Angels still interested narrative.

[Docwaukee]

and pass on McCann.  

31 yo C with recent limited success.  Seems like an unnecessary risk.  

[Warfarin]

5 minutes ago, mmc said:

I don't think he's referring to what the Angels are doing, he's referring to the media/agents/"sources" pushing the Angels still interested narrative.

A key consideration - what contending teams are looking to spend significant $$ on a catcher in this market?  Obviously the Mets are one, but who else beyond them?  The Phillies are reportedly having significant financial issues and are unlikely to spend much on a catcher.  The Rays need a catcher but they certainly aren't going to spend on Realmuto/McCann.

Whichever of Realmuto/McCann doesn't sign with the Mets might be looking at a tough market.

[bloodbrother]

1 hour ago, mmc said:

 

You know it's MLB offseason when we get Heyman tweeting out the most obvious shit

[SlappyUtilityMIF]

3 hours ago, mmc said:

 

With that name, he would fit right in!!!! In before 10/250M...

[SlappyUtilityMIF]

4 hours ago, mmc said:

 

I would have some interest in Jameson Taillon! "When", he's healthy, he is pretty good.

[Pancake Bear]

Duquette is a former Mets guy. Probably just parroting what he's hearing from NY. Minasian already said he values the catcher position very highly. Wouldn't be at all a surprise if they're serious about McCann since Realmuto is out of their price range. Besides, how much, realistically, will the Angels up the price? 4-5m tops? Hoop-de-do. Hate to tell you but that isn't going to push Cohen off of Bauer. 

[angelsnationtalk]

I think we can all agree that Arte can't be outbid by anyone for this reason:

If you wanna play with the big boys then you can't be afraid to compete with the big boys. 

[Second Base]

2 minutes ago, angelsnationtalk said:

I think we can all agree that Arte can't be outbid by anyone for this reason:

If you wanna play with the big boys then you can't be afraid to compete with the big boys. 

Partial truth. He's certainly willing to spend. The difference is how he values players and that's a direct reflection of the GM. Eppler had pretty firm limits on the dollar value of pitching and never advised Moreno to exceed it, which had benefits and consequences. Benefits being, it kept payroll within limits and helped preserve draft picks for building the farm. Consequences in that it left the major league team short on quality pitching year after year after year. 

We all like to pretend Bauer is an ace but he's going to be 30 and how many seasons in his career has he actually pitched like an ace? Two? 

There has to be a balance and some luck involved. You have to be willing to spend, but stay within the confines of sanity and find a pitcher that wants to sign with the Angels and is the quality arm they need. It's a confluence of factors and it hasn't happened very often for the Angels. CJ Wilson might have been the last.

 

[angelsnationtalk]

3 hours ago, mmc said:

 

Yes, he's stating the obvious, but "determined to add top of rotation starter" speaks louder than "pitching help".

I wonder if we see a bit of a different route than the Angels took last year with Cole. Obviously Cole took more money but he also said the Yankees were in a better place to win. 

Do we maybe see the Angels trade for Gray, Snell or someone else to show Bauer that he's the last piece they need? 

I'm sure we can all agree Bauer doesn't suddenly give us the best rotation in baseball. Bullpen is better, offense is fine, maybe Minasian just needs to tell Bauer "hey, we just traded for *insert name here*, you're the last piece we need and Arte will give you a check".