Jo Adell is a hot mess

[DMVol]

9 minutes ago, AngelsFaninGA said:

It's almost as if Eppler hasn't done a good job and is hiding behind the failures of Dipoto. The farm system hasn't produced anything besides Fletcher during his time here. 

I guess Fletcher made the majors on Eppler’s watch but he was drafted in June of 2015, before Eppler was hired....the 2015 draft was just before DiPoto quit....

[tdawg87]

9 hours ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

Yeah. This is totally false. 
 

The day Adell came up Maddon said he would play RF and Goodwin and Upton would platoon in LF.

https://www.ocregister.com/jo-adells-promotion-to-angels-means-a-reduction-in-playing-time-for-justin-upton

 

Face!

[tdawg87]

5 hours ago, Angel said:

Do you guys still believe Adell was actually a top 6 prospect?  I know these things are intangible but he hasn't shown much of anything while players like Tatis who were ranked similarly are raking or AT THE VERY LEAST showing flashes of what's to come during their struggles, like Trout did with his speed/defense.

 

As far as I'm concerned the farm director and scouts heads are on the block.

Yes. He's 21 years old. Not every top prospect comes up and kills it, including Mike Trout.

I know you brought up his defense, which has been horrid, but nobody would notice it as much if he was hitting.

Edited August 25, 2020 by tdawg87

[Angel]

9 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

Yes. He's 21 years old. Not every top prospect comes up and kills it, including Mike Trout.

I know you brought up his defense, which has been horrid, but nobody would notice it as much if he was hitting.

Adell owning the worst play likely in this century (a base 4 error from the warning track) will likely always be remembered.  Let's hope he uses this as fuel to fire him up, otherwise I think he's going to fold under the pressure.

[oldguy]

20 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

Yes. He's 21 years old. Not every top prospect comes up and kills it, including Mike Trout.

I know you brought up his defense, which has been horrid, but nobody would notice it as much if he was hitting.

Yeah, but the lack of defensive skills is alarming.  When we were playing the Giants, Adell caught a medium-depth flyball with Baby Panda on third.  I thought to myself, "This will be close."  Instead, Adell catches the ball flat-footed, goes into this crow-hop trying to gain momentum, takes a day and a half to wind up his arm, and the throw (which was weak), was cutoff.  He has a looooong way to go.  

[Jeff Fletcher]

18 minutes ago, oldguy said:

the lack of defensive skills is alarming. 

The Angels told you he had defensive issues as far back as March, and then even louder in July.
 

No one wanted to believe it. They thought it was all a big lie to manipulate his service time. 

[Stradling]

I really wish it was a service time manipulation game. 

[Jason]

58 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

Yes. He's 21 years old. Not every top prospect comes up and kills it, including Mike Trout.

I know you brought up his defense, which has been horrid, but nobody would notice it as much if he was hitting.

We're Angels fans so we bitch about anything short of perfection 

[Palomar]

2 hours ago, Jason said:

We're Angels fans so we bitch about anything short of perfection 

Well, we also are bitching (rightly so) about things that are no where near being perfection.  I don't think I've ever seen the Angels play this bad (with a few exceptions, that better not be involved in a trade). It's so sad, especially now when we were looking for a nice diversion of the mess of 2020.  

[m0nkey]

12 hours ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

Yeah. This is totally false. 
 

The day Adell came up Maddon said he would play RF and Goodwin and Upton would platoon in LF.

https://www.ocregister.com/jo-adells-promotion-to-angels-means-a-reduction-in-playing-time-for-justin-upton

 

Blarg’d!

[Claude]

I wished the shutdown would’ve been the entire season so the entire league could’ve started their offseason deals early and worked on rule changes. This season has turned out to be a disaster for the Angels. Just another season gone by with no postseason for Trout most likely.

[kevinb]

18 minutes ago, RendZone said:

I wished the shutdown would’ve been the entire season so the entire league could’ve started their offseason deals early and worked on rule changes. This season has turned out to be a disaster for the Angels. Just another season gone by with no postseason for Trout most likely.

What rule changes are they working on in the off season? 

[Stradling]

Just now, Kevinb said:

What rule changes are they working on in the off season? 

None, just someone doesn’t like baseball and how players get paid then get old so he wants rule changes.  

[EnglishCop]

On 8/23/2020 at 7:11 PM, Vlad27Trout27 said:

ANd he should be send down to Long Beach.

Than We should call up Marsh, atleast with Marsh, he won't make stupid desensive error. 

If you have a moment, I'd like to have a sit down with you about stupid errors. Please don't be defensive.

[Rollinghard]

I just don’t see a star in Adell. He doesn’t seem to have that “it” factor. That’s something you just can’t teach. I don’t know what it is but he just doesn’t seem like he has what a takes to be a good big league player. 
 

His swing is way to long.

He whiffs at a lot of pitches.

He has zero baseball IQ

His defense isn’t just horrible, it’s horrific.

 

I literally have zero confidence he will ever come through in a clutch spot. Look at Luis Robert or Tatis... those are superstars in the making. Adell isn’t that. 
 

At this point, we have the offense. I would not be mad or shocked if we traded him for some pitching. We don’t have 3 years to develop this kid. He’s a BIG work in progress. We need to win now.

 

Good point, Bronson, but how much of those problems can be attributed to greenness/nervousness/lack of confidence in a slow start?

He has been playing ball since he was a kid. Bronson is right, I hate to say. Greenness/nervousness/ lack of confidence. Sorry, he is not as advertised. He stinks. Brandon Woods, only worse. 

 

Although I have no knowledge of this, Upton appears lazy and prepaid.  Weak sauce. 

[Stradling]

16 minutes ago, Rollinghard said:

I just don’t see a star in Adell. He doesn’t seem to have that “it” factor. That’s something you just can’t teach. I don’t know what it is but he just doesn’t seem like he has what a takes to be a good big league player. 
 

His swing is way to long.

He whiffs at a lot of pitches.

He has zero baseball IQ

His defense isn’t just horrible, it’s horrific.

 

I literally have zero confidence he will ever come through in a clutch spot. Look at Luis Robert or Tatis... those are superstars in the making. Adell isn’t that. 
 

At this point, we have the offense. I would not be mad or shocked if we traded him for some pitching. We don’t have 3 years to develop this kid. He’s a BIG work in progress. We need to win now.

 

Good point, Bronson, but how much of those problems can be attributed to greenness/nervousness/lack of confidence in a slow start?

He has been playing ball since he was a kid. Bronson is right, I hate to say. Greenness/nervousness/ lack of confidence. Sorry, he is not as advertised. He stinks. Brandon Woods, only worse. 

 

Although I have no knowledge of this, Upton appears lazy and prepaid.  Weak sauce. 

Cool thanks for your input.  

[Taylor]

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[Lou]

5 minutes ago, Taylor said:

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[Chuck]

On 8/23/2020 at 5:03 PM, Chuckster70 said:

Disclaimer: Jo Adell will most likely become a good major league baseball player down the road. This post is identifying how bad he is right now, not a preview of what's to come from this young man down the road. He obviously needs more minor league seasoning.

I agree! 

Since this team is out of playoff contention, I don't mind if he gets that seasoning in the big leagues at this juncture. 

[Lou]

On August 23, 2020 at 5:03 PM, Chuckster70 said:

I can't believe how someone who got picked that high in the draft, performed really well in the minor leagues and was selected as one of the top 3 prospects in all of baseball could play so poorly in every aspect of the game. When I say every aspect, I mean every aspect! 

I agree  

[Angel Oracle]

That’s called a breakout game.

The confidence must be higher now, big with 20/21 year-olds.

[Chuck]

10 minutes ago, Lou said:

I agree  

I agree still. 

Boggles my mind how someone that talented could play that bad during a 2-3 week stretch. 

Happy to see him tapping into that talent that made him a top 10 pick. 

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

On 8/24/2020 at 11:15 AM, Kevinb said:

What is the unique nature of this year? Because no fans are in the stadiums? Because of outside Covid fears? Has anyone who is of any consequence opted out from the Angels. Heck even Trout only missed what 3 games? This year is unique in it's shorter, and no fans are in the stands. But everyone is playing the same game. We are facing teams who are in the exact same situation. It's not like the Angels are the only one dealing with Covid while everyone else is not. 

Players can handle 1 bad month in a 162 game season, but in a 30 game season 1 bad month is all she wrote...

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

On 8/24/2020 at 11:33 AM, Kevinb said:

I don't think 60 games is not enough time to assess.

not sure if you think 60 games is enough or not. depends on if the double negative was intentional or not

[Inside Pitch]

5 hours ago, Chuckster70 said:

I agree still. 

Boggles my mind how someone that talented could play that bad during a 2-3 week stretch. 

Happy to see him tapping into that talent that made him a top 10 pick. 

This is what he does...    He is still exactly the same guy he was a week ago when people were talking about trading him...