Ryu: “Angels didn’t want two Asian players on the team”

[Pancake Bear]

54 minutes ago, Lou said:

even sadder that anyone would think it was possibly true 

Ever since Ohtani was picking a team, there have been rumors he didn’t want to go to a team with another Japanese star, whether now or previously. Probably not true, but it isn’t impossible. And if it was, that would give a reason why this story could be accurate. Now we know Boras denies it, but to say it’s sad anyone would think it’s true is simply incorrect. That doesn’t mean that even if it was true that there couldn’t have been other reasons they didn’t want Ryu. Obviously the Dodgers didn’t pursue him very hard either.  

[Torridd]

6 hours ago, tdawg87 said:

Because we need to know if Eppler is TRYING

Well, I don't understand why there would be no offer on a pitcher the team desperately needs.

[Lou]

10 hours ago, Pancake Bear said:

Ever since Ohtani was picking a team, there have been rumors he didn’t want to go to a team with another Japanese star, whether now or previously. Probably not true, but it isn’t impossible. And if it was, that would give a reason why this story could be accurate. Now we know Boras denies it, but to say it’s sad anyone would think it’s true is simply incorrect. That doesn’t mean that even if it was true that there couldn’t have been other reasons they didn’t want Ryu. Obviously the Dodgers didn’t pursue him very hard either.  

there's a big difference between a player not wanting to play somewhere and an organization not wanting a top free agent because of his race . 

the fact that the dodgers didn't want him back probably  shows why teams didn't want Ryu - too much money, for too many years, for the  projected production they would receive in return. it had nothing to do with race. 

[Lou]

14 minutes ago, Torridd said:

Well, I don't understand why there would be no offer on a pitcher the team desperately needs.

read Fletcher's post. 

[nate]

55 minutes ago, Torridd said:

Well, I don't understand why there would be no offer on a pitcher the team desperately needs.

He is at best a part time pitcher in every year of his career but the last year.

[eligrba4ever]

Somebody "in the Ryu camp" seems to be trolling. Japan-ROK relations are frequently touchy. If Boras says this did not happen, it didn't.  The Angels probably didn't want to beat the highest offer and then worry when the injury list would come into play. Mr. Ryu has a history. There's a reason Ryu was the last FA pitching headliner still standing at Christmas.

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

8 hours ago, UndertheHalo said:

Not too hard to find a Japanese girl quite a bit cuter then that one.  I declare that picture unjust and bias against the people of Japan.  Outrage !

Yoko

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

maybe they felt 4 years was just too long

[m0nkey]

8 hours ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Remember when Cliff Lee was available? We didnt sign him, either.

This was awesome 

[T.G.]

What a waste of a giant bowl of kemchi.

[Claude]

We need more Asian players. 

[Jeff Fletcher]

7 hours ago, RBM said:

So your sources believe the article/author is inaccurate when they posit the Angels did not offer Ryu a contract because he is a Korean star and they already have Ohtani, a Japanese star?
 

https://m.sports.naver.com/news.nhn?oid=380&aid=0000001346

Exactly

[T.G.]

The Mets have taken a similar stand. They won't sign any players from other solar systems because they already have Thor.

Edited December 27, 2019 by True Grich

[gotbeer]

I go to sleep early, hiding from the zombies and dreaming of going to space, and all hell breaks loose.  

[T.G.]

20 minutes ago, gotbeer said:

I go to sleep early, hiding from the zombies and dreaming of going to space, and all hell breaks loose.  

Don't eat kemchi before going to sleep.

[DCAngelsFan]

6 hours ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

To piggyback on this, id almost think there is some truth to it.

Not lil kim of pyongyang. But to the crowd that reads the paper the statement was given to. As in, this guy just had a phenom year, why didnt he score the same payday as guys like cole, strassburg, etc. So his "camp" (which for all we know, isnt his official take on anything) makes up "excuses" (for lack of a better word) to say why ryus market wasnt as big as some would have expected.

Literally, forget formal offers.... if the angels truly didnt want two asians, they would have never met with his people in the first place.

End of story.

I wouldn't use the word "truth" in what's described, but yeah, I see what you're saying.

The one thing I don't think they realize is with this rationalizing  - what a Toronto fan is hearing is "I really didn't want to come here, but the teams I wanted to play for wouldn't pay me" - not exactly a great way to make friends.

[stormngt]

11 hours ago, Lou said:

why does it matter if we gave him an offer? 

It means they passed on a frontline starting pitcher.   And if Ryu is pitches effectively Eppler should get the blame.

The team does not have a frontline pitcher.  Being outbid is one thing.  Passing on a guy when you are in desperate need is another!

[stormngt]

10 hours ago, RBM said:

I would also. Ryu's camp, which I guess would/should include Boras, say they did not receive an offer.

Ryu camp also says its race related so I am not taking the "no offer" as fact yet.  I for one would like to know if it's a fact.

[Angel Oracle]

30 minutes ago, True Grich said:

Don't eat kemchi before going to sleep.

Now I'm jonesing a MASH marathon.

[floplag]

According to Ryu's camp... thats pretty much the thread right there. 
IF this were true, they would have never spoken with him to begin with.
Im not going to dignify an athlete basically playing the race card.

[Taylor]

Article: (Speculation) The Angels didn't sign Ryu because he's Asian.

Jeff Fletcher: I can all but guarantee this isn't true, based on my knowledge of the team and my sources in the industry. Here's a rational and believable explanation for why the Angels didn't sign Ryu.

AW Peeps: I don't know ... I think there might still be something to the original story.

[Stradling]

1 hour ago, stormngt said:

It means they passed on a frontline starting pitcher.   And if Ryu is pitches effectively Eppler should get the blame.

The team does not have a frontline pitcher.  Being outbid is one thing.  Passing on a guy when you are in desperate need is another!

Read what Fletcher says about the process. 

[Jeff Fletcher]

35 minutes ago, floplag said:

According to Ryu's camp... thats pretty much the thread right there. 
IF this were true, they would have never spoken with him to begin with.
Im not going to dignify an athlete basically playing the race card.

It wasn’t even Ryu who said this, according to original story from Korea. And it wasn’t anyone from the Boras Corp. So maybe it was one of his buddies that is just guessing. 
 

It’s ridiculous. 

[floplag]

3 minutes ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

It wasn’t even Ryu who said this, according to original story from Korea. And it wasn’t anyone from the Boras Corp. So maybe it was one of his buddies that is just guessing. 
 

It’s ridiculous. 

Agreed, i would even say irresponsible in the current political climate. 

[Blarg]

Something about a lie will travel half way across the world before Fletcher can get his first cup of coffee.