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Bill Neftleberg

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  1. I'm still here, I'm just not wasting pearls of wisdom on the swine it's a wasted effort. Those who actually want to talk baseball I respond to, those who like to ridicule just to ease their phallic deficiency syndrome like Lou, why bother?
  2. You're still missing the point. The Mets are not trading Logo for trash. MLB has rated your farm as one of the worst in baseball. That is why you haven't acquired a top of the rotation starter and have settled for a guy who was non-tendered (in effect, released) in Teheran and a former top prospect on Dylan Bundy who went 7-14 last year. outside of Adell and Marsh you don't have any prospects that any team would trade 1 for 1, or even 2 for 1 for a top of the rotation starter. That is why you haven't traded for one. Hell, you had to give 4 of your prospects for Bundy who as mentioned went 7-14. The point is outside of Adell and Marsh, No team is giving you a top of the rotation starter for the dreck you're offering.
  3. Then why did bleacher report rank them 28th of 30 teams with Adell this season at the end of season review. And more importantly why couldn't the Angels acquire a single top of the rotation starter this offseason.? they settled for a non tender release in Teheran and a 7-14 5+ Era Bundy as a reclamation project.. Surely if your farm system was so strong you could have gotten someone who is legit yet you didnt. even Cole who was rumored to the Angels went elsewhere. moreno had the money for Rendon. Why not for Ryu, Madbum, Keuchel, or Wheeler . Even if he had to overpay? Obviously the prospects aren't that good or you'd have gotten better pitchers and you wouldn't want Lugo. I'm just looking at things from a logistical viewpoint. Trout and Rendon, too for that matter aren't getting any younger, id think if those prospects were so good Clevenger (a former angel) Kluber, or Ray, would be Angels right now. Don't you think?
  4. I said the Mets would ask for adell, and the Angels would decline. The Mets have Rosario. Guillorme and Gimenez. Rengifo is no where near any of the m, sorry but it's true Guillorme has outplayed him in the majors and Gimenez is the better prospect by far. And they still have Rosario and McNeill at short and second The Mets wouldn't need to have gall to ask for Adell. Since he is really the only prospect the Angels have worth a proven pitcher like Lugo. Marsh has value but not enough. So why would the Mets even consider trading Logo for less? They wouldnt. it's the same reason the Angels couldn't get a real top of the rotation pitcher this offseason. The only real value prospect you have is Adell. Teams can only ask for what you have
  5. no way would lugo go for that, he is their best reliever. the mets also have Luis Guillorme and Andres Gimenez as better shortstop ready prospects that they like. In fact some rate Jimenez almost as high as Adell so why would they even consider Rengifo realistically with their big need being CF they'll ask for Jo Adell Which the angels will likely turn down. Last year the Tigers offered Boyd for Lugo and the mets turned it down according to John Harper of the NY Daily News so I doubt they have any real interest in moving him Really Robert you need to do at least a little research before posting these articles. Not only are they biased towards the Angels in trade considerations they show ZERO understanding of the other teams. Literally my 12 year old nephew could do a better job.
  6. It's not a meme, it's the law Man..or have you not heard of " all men are created equal " and the 1st ammendment. and I love you too. some of us actually believe in what our flag and constitution stand for. Even in a relatively minor forum such as this. As Voltaire said: "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
  7. @ukyah: first off this is a fans message board. Everyone who is a fan is entitled to post here. I called Lou a bully because that's what he is, pure and simple. Any one who thinks they have a right to try and intimidate another poster or roast any other for expressing their opinion is a bully. It is what it is. You want to call me a troll, that's fine. That's your opinion I don't happen to agree with it but it's still your right to post it so I accept it for what it is. 1 post or 10,000 posts it doesn't matter.each one should stand on its own merits. that why I called Lou what I did, he acts like the sheer weight of his number of posts earns him the right to be the thought police. guess what it doesnt. In these United states, we are all equal, born with inalienable rights and a responsibility to speak out. anyone who thinks that by the sheer force of their personality, that they can tread on another's free speech is a bully and I will call them on it. And as for stradlings position that real men don't call other men bullies, Hogwash!!! It takes a person with conviction to stand up in a community and risk disapproval to state what might be an unpopular opinion. King George in 1776 wasn't to thrilled with the idea of revolution either. I guess that if there was a public forum back then he would have called all Americans trolls and douchebags too.
  8. Not much to disagree with on the surface but you do realize that in general that is true for most teams. In my experience, and I'm sure in yours as well, most of our hoped for endeavors don't work out as we wish them to. you list 4 hopes 1. Healthy seasons 2. Positive progressions 3. Good Seasons 4. A Quality catcher of the 4 experience says that one of the 4 will happen, one of the 4 will worsen. One of the 4 remain the same, and one will work out in a way that none of us could have imagined. that how life works. It's best if you build in redundancies
  9. The kid has an electric arm but because of that these trade proposals are too low. The cardinals asking price would start with adell. Balk at that they have zero reason to talk to you you don't get an arm like his for prospects you want to give up.
  10. agreed, having Watched Wheelers every start. lets just put it this way, Im glad my mets gave DeGrom his contract and not Wheeler. he might be better in Philly, but not 150M better
  11. ive looked the only thing reported was on MLB they said the yankees went 324 the dodgers 8/300 and the Angels 8/297 but i dont think it mattered being a met fan in NY, after they publically came out, they would have offered 500M if they had to. its what they do you cant blame the Angels for Cole
  12. a fair take, i mean 12M as opposed to 245M i think both of us agree that the money would have been better spent on Madbum, Ryu and Donaldson, but thats hindsight
  13. no i came here with a suggestion, seeing that you needed pitching and I suggested happ because he would come FREE AND LIKELY EVEN SUBSIDIZED, and you mocked me. you could have said hes not what we're looking for, and that would be fine, I just called you what you are and now youre upset you were outed
  14. yes i agree, i really wasnt agreeing with that particular move, I was just pointing out that in certain situations it is a tool that can be used at the time it certainly was a head scratcher If and I do mean if, because we dont know, but if it was the difference in landing rendon or not, I really cant complain
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