THE Official 2019-2020 Hot Stove Thread

[Lou]

1 minute ago, Stradling said:

We’re talking to the Red Sox again about Price. 

they better be hungry for money

[Stradling]

6 minutes ago, Lou said:

they better be hungry for money

Like I said if a deal gets done they’ll be paying it down to be comparable to the annual salary of Keuchel, Madison Bumgarner or Hamels.  

[Keener]

14 minutes ago, Hubs said:

This rotation would be so much better with a healthy Garrett Richards at the top but that’s the way the cookie crumbles.

Or the way the elbow crumbles

[tdawg87]

39 minutes ago, Stradling said:

We’re talking to the Red Sox again about Price. 

[hangin n wangin]

I would rather sign Alex Wood than trade for David Price. I don’t think Price is as bad as some people are making him out to be, but it would seem to make more sense to sign Wood and not trade any prospects... 

[failos]

50 minutes ago, Stradling said:

We’re talking to the Red Sox again about Price. 

Link?

[hangin n wangin]

[Stradling]

4 minutes ago, Φαήλος said:

Link?

No link, just information I was told.  

[failos]

1 minute ago, Stradling said:

No link, just information I was told.  

In my country we call this hearsay

[Pancake Bear]

4 minutes ago, Stradling said:

No link, just information I was told.  

By who?

[Stradling]

2 minutes ago, Φαήλος said:

In my country we call this hearsay

Yea, I am sure they do.  I am just passing on what I heard, you aren’t required to believe me.  

[UndertheHalo]

I believe you Strad. 

[Stradling]

Just now, UndertheHalo said:

I believe you Strad. 

Thanks.  I am not sure why I would lie.  I’ve got 40k posts and don’t really need to lie to help my street credit here.  Hell if I wanted people to believe me I would just bully people into believing me.  

[UndertheHalo]

Gotta say though.  I am really not a big fan of getting Price. 

[Stradling]

I really just want Gray from Colorado.  Take on one of their bad reliever contracts to bring down the prospect cost.  

[Second Base]

Hate it or not but David Price is the exact sort of veteran to mentor a young pitching staff.

[tdawg87]

7 minutes ago, Second Base said:

Hate it or not but David Price is the exact sort of veteran to mentor a young pitching staff.

[Claude]

8 minutes ago, Second Base said:

Hate it or not but David Price is the exact sort of veteran to mentor a young pitching staff.

Not a big fan of giving a $3.2B team some salary relief. Screw them!

[mulwin444]

5 minutes ago, Second Base said:

Hate it or not but David Price is the exact sort of veteran to mentor a young pitching staff.

They don't need a broken, $30+ mil per year "mentor"...they need a guy that can take his turn in the rotation and give them quality innings.  The mentor thing is not essential...

[Pancake Bear]

2 minutes ago, mulwin444 said:

They don't need a broken, $30+ mil per year "mentor"...they need a guy that can take his turn in the rotation and give them quality innings.  The mentor thing is not essential...

They wouldn’t be paying him 30m a year. The elbow issues are concerning, though. 

[failos]

51 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Yea, I am sure they do.  I am just passing on what I heard, you aren’t required to believe me.  

I believe you, but the question is do I believe the person that told you.

[Stradling]

Just now, Φαήλος said:

I believe you, but the question is do I believe the person that told you.

Yea that’s up to you. 

[failos]

Just now, Stradling said:

Yea that’s up to you. 

Anyways, I wouldn't be against Price coming to the Angels. I'd rather not give anything of value up though.

[mulwin444]

15 minutes ago, mulwin444 said:

They don't need a broken, $30+ mil per year "mentor"...they need a guy that can take his turn in the rotation and give them quality innings.  The mentor thing is not essential...

We're either giving them a handful of Rondons and taking on salary or giving something of significance so Boston can eat $10+ mil a year.  I'd rather save those bullets ($20+ mil left on payroll or the prospects) for someone who is worth it...even if it happens at the trade deadline.  Eppler has a talented roster, tradable assets and some financial flexibility, he can be patient.

[Second Base]

25 minutes ago, mulwin444 said:

They don't need a broken, $30+ mil per year "mentor"...they need a guy that can take his turn in the rotation and give them quality innings.  The mentor thing is not essential...

@Pancake Bear The luxury tax part won't matter to the Angels as much as the Red Sox, so to get his AAV off their roster is a top priority. I suspect the Angels would be taking on more salary in 2020 and less in 2021 and 2022.

He's owed 32 million across the next three years and if calculations are correct, the Red Sox figure to be around 10 million over that threshold. Just a guess, but if this did happen, I think the Angels would be on the hook for 20 million in 2020, 15 million in 2021 and 10 million in 2022. 

Red Sox would still be on the hook for 51 million of the 96 million Price is owed, but they'd be able to drop under the tax this season, and after next year they'd have Betts and JBJ off the payroll, and would owe 17 million if Price's salary, which means they're be able to extend our sign free agents again next winter. The following winter though, they'll babe on the hook for 22 million of Price's salary, but since it's the last year of his contract, this may not bother Boston so much. In the end, it saves them money and asked Boston to reload and compete again, likely in 2022 or 2023, rather than going through a full rebuilding process. 

And for the Angels, they get the pitching Captain they need, the mid rotation starter they need, and at a price that's less than what they would've paid Keuchel or Bumgarner. Price moving away from the AL East, moving to a team with an equally as spectacular OF but far superior infield, reuniting with Maddon, working under Callaway, on a team that figures to have a decently deep bullpen, it just puts him in the perfect scenario to succeed. I think his ERA would deflate down into the mid-3's and he'd cover 150 innings a year. 

Certainly not an ace. Certainly a risk. But it had a decent chance of playing out well for the Angels. And I doubt this deal would prevent the Angels from bringing in Alex Wood either.