In what year will the Halos have a good pen?

[Angel Oracle]

Is it utopian to expect a solid Halos pen?

Seems like it’s been forever!

[ten ocho recon scout]

Best we could do

 

[Angelsjunky]

The optimistic take...

Consider three things:

1) There have been overall positive developments from their young starters, so the Angels potentially have seven starting candidates age 27 or younger for next year: Ohtani, Sandoval, Canning, Suarez, Detmers, Rodriguez, Barria. This doesn't include other overall positive developments from guys like Tyler, Criswell, etc.

2) The lineup, if healthy, is stacked. The only real gap is SS, but given how strong the lineup is, they can risk it with Rengifo.

3) Upcoming trades. I think the Angels falling below .500 signals to Minasian that selling is the likely course, regardless of what he says publicly. He can hopefully turn some of Raisel, Cobb, Heaney, even Iglesias, Gosselin, Watson, Cishek, and Ward into young, controllable arms. Who knows, maybe he dangles Adell for Marquez.

The above means that most of their spending money can be directed towards the bullpen. I'd want them to sign one good starter, but I don't think they absolutely have to get a second guy or spend on any position players.

Meaning, they can allot $20-30M on the bullpen. That should get them one elite arm and two or three quality veterans. They can fill the rest out with minor leaguers.

[Angel Oracle]

One thing is for sure.

No more pens with mostly pus throwers!

Teams nowadays mainly have hard throwers with a solid secondary pitch.

How many other MLB teams employ as many pus throwers in the pen as the Halos do?

[UndertheHalo]

What pray tell, is a “pus” thrower 

[Angel Oracle]

3 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

What pray tell, is a “pus” thrower 

Soft tosser

[UndertheHalo]

Just now, Angel Oracle said:

Soft tosser

Oh 

[TooCool]

When Trout and Ohtani are way past their primes and we have zero offense. Then we'll have a solid pen but lose games by a score of 1-0 or 2-0 nightly.

[Angels 1961]

2022 "Don't Stop Belivin"

[ten ocho recon scout]

[Redondo]

Bring up the young guys and let them pitch in the pen

Pitching in the big will give them experience 

I'm tired of this team treading water

Perry knows about building farms

Make that move

[Jason]

It almost feels like luck plays a role when it comes to having a good, dependable bullpen. 

[WicketMaiden]

49 minutes ago, Jason said:

It almost feels like luck plays a role when it comes to having a good, dependable bullpen. 

It is when the pen is full of lottery tickets, reclamation projects, and up and comers. Sure, I get that relievers are erratic, but the best relievers are the most consistent year after year, game after game. Relievers like Chapman, Jansen, even vets like Joe Smith a few years ago, our own Iglesias, choose your own favourites there are plenty out there - yes they will have blips but there are good reasons they get paid well. The Angels just don't seem to want to consider that and consistently try to build the pen on the cheap. I think we can conclude after the last few years that that strategy simply doesn't work.

Now they've drafted a bucket-load of college pitchers (thanks and well done Perry) "Spend on the Pen" is going to be my new mantra.

Spend on the Pen!

[AngelsFaninGA]

In 2472, after the Great Bullpen Wars ravage the world and a cyborg Chris Bootcheck emerges to lead the Angels' resurgence. 

[Taylor]

2 hours ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

LOL. Did you make this?

[ten ocho recon scout]

19 minutes ago, Taylor said:

LOL. Did you make this?

Yes

(Edit. I had to double check how to spell cishek)

[fan_since79]

11 hours ago, UndertheHalo said:

What pray tell, is a “pus” thrower 

Guys who enter the game with men on base and throw meatballs that scream "Hit me!"

 

[UndertheHalo]

2 minutes ago, fan_since79 said:

Guys who enter the game with men on base and throw meatballs that scream "Hit me!"

 

Oh

[failos]

13 hours ago, UndertheHalo said:

What pray tell, is a “pus” thrower 

Did you not watch the game?

[failos]

2 hours ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Yes

(Edit. I had to double check how to spell cishek)

You misspelled it. It’s Shitshek.

[SlappyUtilityMIF]

On 7/19/2021 at 10:07 PM, Angel Oracle said:

One thing is for sure.

No more pens with mostly pus throwers!

Teams nowadays mainly have hard throwers with a solid secondary pitch.

How many other MLB teams employ as many pus throwers in the pen as the Halos do?

Well, the thought process is to change the look....Which is why you have a sidewinder from either side of the bump (Cishek & Claudio both situational guys). Two hard throwers in Mayers and Raisel and at the time an unknown in CROD. A lefty in Watson who has done everything from situational to closer and a couple long men former starters in Pena/Quintana!

The reality:

A couple of Hard throwers in Mayers/Raisel and 3 situational pieces thrown into full inning guys (Cishek, Claudio and Watson). An injury to your unknown asset in CROD. An injury to your long guy in Pena. And Quintana/Bundy have been dog shit in the rotation and pen!

It's knowing what you have and how to best utilize them in each specific situation! We already know about their abilities either starting an inning or coming in with runners on. That's on the coaching staff and pitching coach and knowing how to place his arms in a game for success rather than just get by!

[Brandon]

2002

[Taylor]

3002

[Adam]

it skus

[eligrba]

The Angels will finally have a lock down bullpen at the time they don’t have any offense. They will lose by scores of 1-0 and 3-1 instead of 9-4 and 7-5.