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Angels can surpass Pittsburgh, just gotta give Upton and Pujols some more starts down the stretch

Think of the White Castle endorsement deals this kid has waiting for him!

I think you guys have to stop including Shohei Ohtani in the potential pitching depth chart for the next 3 years.  As depressing as that is to say

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9 hours ago, Angel Oracle said:

Only downside with Leiter is that even with a full 2021 college season, he will only have 1 1/3 college seasons under his belt.

Would likely need 2+ minor league seasons to be ready?

This is a good point.  Unfortunately, this is going to be the case for many young guys as well...losing some development time.  Then again, i guess from the Angels standpoint and the curse of TJ injuries, maybe it's best to have them pitching less -- get some guys with less wear/tear on their arms/shoulders.  Grasping at straws these days at glass-half-full viewpoints as an Angel fan.

If indeed we do get a top 5-6 pick, we really need there to be some decent amount of spring College / HS baseball played so scouts can properly evaluate.  If we end up in the 10-15 range, it could be a potential benefit to those teams (& back end of 1st round) with good scouting since guys might be available who otherwise would not have if being able to showcase themselves over a full season.

They better not F with the draft order.  Only thing i'd be cool with would be a lottery for the top pick for the non-playoff teams.  I could get behind this for one season due to the hugely unbalanced 2020 schedule. 

Pirates have won 3 in a row -- keep it up! 

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I just realized that there are hardly any African American pitchers in baseball. David Price, Chris Archer, C.C. Sabathia, and ... ? 

It would be awesome to have a star pitcher who is both Indian American and African American. I'm on Team Kumar.

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Right, I hate the idea of tanking, plus managers and players aren’t going to not try to win games.  By the time these draft picks are impactful in the major leagues Maddon will be retired.  Not to mention with the current turnover rate on the average major league teams 75% of the players will no longer be on the team a few years later when even the best draftees are on that team.  

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4 hours ago, RendZone said:

Sadly they’re not tanking. What you’re watching is real. 

No i mean in general.. some would be all for it, i would not.
But you are correct this isnt an act were just playing the usual Halo baseball finding ways to lose games we should win.   Same shit diff season.

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Can't wait for us to go on a 6 game winning streak to end the season and get stuck with the 8th pick of the draft. But seriously, Rocker and Leiter would be HUGE for our future rotation. It also looks like there's a huge dropoff in starting pitching talent after Rocker and Leiter so picking 3rd instead of 2nd would be pretty shitty. Jaden Hill looks to be pretty good though.

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5 hours ago, Taylor said:

I just realized that there are hardly any African American pitchers in baseball. David Price, Chris Archer, C.C. Sabathia, and ... ? 

It would be awesome to have a star pitcher who is both Indian American and African American. I'm on Team Kumar.

If the guy can pitch well what does it matter if he is Indian American or African American or American at all? 

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13 hours ago, Stradling said:

Right, I hate the idea of tanking, plus managers and players aren’t going to not try to win games.  By the time these draft picks are impactful in the major leagues Maddon will be retired.  Not to mention with the current turnover rate on the average major league teams 75% of the players will no longer be on the team a few years later when even the best draftees are on that team.  

Rocker could be in the bigs in less than a year after being drafted.  He turns 21 in a couple of months.  

If there were ever a season where I'd condone tanking, this is it.  This is the best opportunity for this team to get a top draft pick.  

A 60 game championship would be cool.  Sort of.   But ultimately would be looked upon as a side show.  

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50 minutes ago, Dochalo said:

Rocker could be in the bigs in less than a year after being drafted.  He turns 21 in a couple of months.  

If there were ever a season where I'd condone tanking, this is it.  This is the best opportunity for this team to get a top draft pick.  

A 60 game championship would be cool.  Sort of.   But ultimately would be looked upon as a side show.  

Do you think Leiter would be a nice consolation prize or do you think it’s quite a drop off from Rocker to Leiter?

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18 minutes ago, rafibomb said:

Do you think Leiter would be a nice consolation prize or do you think it’s quite a drop off from Rocker to Leiter?

Leiter would be a drop off IMO, you want pitchers that are build like tanks ala Lackey, Colon Sabathia etc etc

 

Problem is we have to tank to acquire the tank, this lineup will have days where it can't do wrong and we will win games, I don't see the Angels getting anything higher than top 3 pick.  Our pitching will have to be historically bad for us to have the worst record in baseball.

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The idea of a pitching staff consisting of Kumar Rocker or Jack Leiter/Chris Rodriguez/Dylan Bundy/Shohei Ohtani/Reid Detmers/Andrew Heaney/Griffin Canning with Patrick Sandoval, Jose Suarez, and Jaime Barria as depth sounds like something to be excited about and that's not including any FA acquisitions.

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After 30 games, the front page is dominated by threads about trading for the future and jockeying for the #1 draft pick position in June ...

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Can't believe I bought the mlb.tv package this year - "best" move I made since buying into an airline stock in January ... 🙄

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