Gameday Thread: Angels vs. A's (7/26/2020) Shohei Ohtani's 2020 Debut

[Justin]

Heaney 1.93 ERA

Bundy 1.65 ERA

Ohtani  ERA

[AngelsLakersFan]

3 minutes ago, southpaw said:

The level of panicking is amazing here on AW.com. Simply amazing. 

Are you kidding? Sure Bronson is a little over the top right now, but the last time people on here were complaining about panicking about Ohtani the dude ended up missing two years.

[UndertheHalo]

1 minute ago, Bronson said:

Can we really afford 3-4 more starts like that though??? 

Who cares.  If they do well this season great.  If they don’t.  Meh.  The season is fucked anyway. I’ll just be happy to see a pitching core solidify.  

[Lou]

2 minutes ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

 

I'm the least snowflakey person here. You have multiple people telling you you're being an annoying little fuck. Take a hint.

And your only response is "stop being a snow flake hurr durr."

I agree

[Mark68]

Glad Ohtani and his infinite ERA skewed our SP stats...

[Bronson]

If this was a regular season I wouldn’t care nearly as much. I’d just say keep working him each start. We don’t have that luxury this year. Every game matters drastically. Can’t afford to throw away games while a dude tries to find his stuff. Just keep throwing bullpen sessions and get ready next year for Ohtani pitching.

[Mark68]

I'm not normally a day drinker, but...Ohtani has made me break out the beer.

 

That and the 0-3 RISP in the first.

[Hufflepuff]

23 minutes ago, bloodbrother said:

This isn't surprising, though. Dude hasn't pitched a competitive game in nearly 2 years and really struggled in camp. It's gonna take him awhile IMO

This might not be the time to be letting him regain his old form. Pretty much just took an L to see that he's not ready. 

[UndertheHalo]

Announcing your non *snowflake* credentials basically guarantees the opposite actually. 

[PattyD22]

4 minutes ago, Fourts said:

Read back.  Comments to me about madden letting canning go 90 without restrictions.  Regardless, 60-75 is very limited to me - and I pointed out that he’s been wild and it could be a short day if not under control.  30 pitches.  Very limited 

Maddon was the one that said he wasn’t going to put him on a pitch count and it was cited in Jeff Fletchers article.  

[Vlad27Trout27]

5 minutes ago, Bronson said:

It’s both. When he’s hitting high 90’s he can get away with being wild... you can’t when you’re hitting 92-93.

no matter how hard a guys throws, if he missing the strike zone by a mile, it wont help

 

What I saw saw out of Ohtani, was guy fighting his mechanics. he looked stiff and not properly finishing of his  pitches.

[Lou]

The worst part is that cricket is over for the day.

[AngelsLakersFan]

8 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

Not worried about that at all.  The reports are that his velocity is fine.  
 

Today is disappointing, but really it’s not that huge of a surprise.  He hasn’t pitched in 2 years.  I’m glad to see the mean bite in the split and the reports of restored velocity.  Im not tripping about the command right now.  It’ll be fine. 

I honestly can't tell if this is all sarcasm.

[rafibomb]

https://twitter.com/fabianardaya/status/1287488831374073856?s=21
not a single splitter thrown out of 30 pitches by Shohei. Dude is legitimately still in spring training ‘18 mode.

[Bronson]

2 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

Who cares.  If they do well this season great.  If they don’t.  Meh.  The season is fucked anyway. I’ll just be happy to see a pitching core solidify.  

That’s a terrible way to look at things but okay. 
 

Don’t even bother watching then.

[Taylor]

5 minutes ago, Bronson said:

Can we really afford 3-4 more starts like that though??? 

Sure, if it means he pitches like an ace in 2021.

[Angels in 2030]

3 minutes ago, Lou said:

Canning and Ohtani are different people. 

I agree.  Maybe you should have quoted that post and how off it was...rather than mine.  

[failos]

Maybe Ohtani should stick to hitting.

[UndertheHalo]

Just now, AngelsLakersFan said:

I honestly can't tell if this is all sarcasm.

It’s not sarcasm the stuff looked fine.  The velocity was a little low but all we’ve read was that it’s been what we’ve come to expect.  
 

are we talking about movement on the fastball ? That’s never been part of the package with Ohtani. 

[eligrba]

4 minutes ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

Are you kidding? Sure Bronson is a little over the top right now, but the last time people on here were complaining about panicking about Ohtani the dude ended up missing two years.

I thought he played last year?

[Stradling]

5 minutes ago, Bronson said:

It’s annoying because it’s not what you wanna hear.

No it’s annoying because you are being an overreacting jackass. 

[Chuck]

Just now, failos said:

Maybe Ohtani should stick to hitting.

No, that's ridiculous to think that. He just came back from TJ surgery and he's still trying to get a feel for the command of his pitches. 

That said, he should be in the lineup tomorrow based on this extremely short outing. 

[Bronson]

Just now, Stradling said:

No it’s annoying because you are being an overreacting jackass. 

Saying Ohtani shouldn’t pitch anymore this year in a 60 game season is not overreacting. 

[UndertheHalo]

1 minute ago, Bronson said:

That’s a terrible way to look at things but okay. 
 

Don’t even bother watching then.

No I’ll watch thanks.  Sorry I’m not going to have a stroke about a tommy john guy who hasn’t pitched in 2 years having a rough first go.  Jesus cry more dude. 

[Stradling]

Just now, Bronson said:

Saying Ohtani shouldn’t pitch anymore this year in a 60 game season is not overreacting. 

Yes, it is.