Gameday Thread: Angels vs. A's (7/26/2020) Shohei Ohtani's 2020 Debut

[yk9001]

2 minutes ago, rafibomb said:

https://twitter.com/fabianardaya/status/1287488831374073856?s=21
not a single splitter thrown out of 30 pitches by Shohei. Dude is legitimately still in spring training ‘18 mode.

The splitter is an out pitch when you're ahead in the count.

[AngelsLakersFan]

1 minute ago, UndertheHalo said:

It’s not sarcasm the stuff looked fine.  The velocity was a little low but all we’ve read was that it’s been what we’ve come to expect.  
 

are we talking about movement on the fastball ? That’s never been part of the package with Ohtani. 

Were you listening on the radio?

[eligrba4ever]

Just saw a clip of somebody dressing the Cardboard People in red shirts.

[Angels in 2030]

1 minute ago, PattyD22 said:

Maddon was the one that said he wasn’t going to put him on a pitch count and it was cited in Jeff Fletchers article.  

Yes I know.  I just didn’t believe it.  I followed Ohtani’s progress closely for reasons I won’t discuss.  But fact is -

not good.  Was hoping for

best and he’s surprised in the past.  But frankly didn’t expect this bad.  Let’s hope he bounces back quickly. 

[Bronson]

Just now, UndertheHalo said:

No I’ll watch thanks.  Sorry I’m not going to have a stroke about a tommy john guy who hasn’t pitched in 2 years having a rough first go.  Jesus cry more dude. 

You’re the one who said this season doesn’t matter... so I say to you, why bother watching. 

[Justin]

1 minute ago, Bronson said:

Saying Ohtani shouldn’t pitch anymore this year in a 60 game season is not overreacting. 

Correct. It's being an overreacting jackass. 

[Bronson]

Just now, Stradling said:

Yes, it is.  

No, it isn’t. But again you know what they say about opinions. And we both have one on this matter.

[Mark68]

2 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

It’s not sarcasm the stuff looked fine.  The velocity was a little low but all we’ve read was that it’s been what we’ve come to expect.  
 

are we talking about movement on the fastball ? That’s never been part of the package with Ohtani. 

Yeah, but the splitter has always been part of the package and that was...absent.

[AngelsLakersFan]

3 minutes ago, eligrba said:

I thought he played last year?

I'm talking about his pitching obviously.

[mmc]

At this point I don't care if we lose, I just want some confidence that Andriese belongs in the rotation instead of sticking to the bullpen, and that Thaiss and Walsh can hit major league pitching.

[UndertheHalo]

I thought the splitter seemed fine.  It’s not like he threw that many. 

[eligrba]

5 minutes ago, Bronson said:

If this was a regular season I wouldn’t care nearly as much. I’d just say keep working him each start. We don’t have that luxury this year. Every game matters drastically. Can’t afford to throw away games while a dude tries to find his stuff. Just keep throwing bullpen sessions and get ready next year for Ohtani pitching.

Was that how you prepared when pitching in the majors?

[bloodbrother]

2 minutes ago, Hufflepuff said:

This might not be the time to be letting him regain his old form. Pretty much just took an L to see that he's not ready. 

Not sure what else they do though.He's a big part of this teams future and they need him to regain his form by making these starts. He's not gonna get back on track by throwing side sessions.

[hen3ry]

1 minute ago, eligrba4ever said:

Just saw a clip of somebody dressing the Cardboard People in red shirts.

Yeah I don't think I like that much.  For some reason people are paying good money to put cardboard cutouts of themselves in the stands.  I know I'd be annoyed if I plunked down some coin to put myself there, and someone dressed me in Tigers or Team-from-Cleveland gear.

[rafibomb]

Just now, UndertheHalo said:

I thought the splitter seemed fine.  It’s not like he threw that many. 

He didn’t throw any I don’t think. Those pitches in the 80’s were just sliders

[UndertheHalo]

He wasn’t able to locate pitches.  It’s not like he was getting shelled.  He had a couple that got hit well off of him.  Not like they were blasted out of the park. 

[Angel Oracle]

4 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

It’s not sarcasm the stuff looked fine.  The velocity was a little low but all we’ve read was that it’s been what we’ve come to expect.  
 

are we talking about movement on the fastball ? That’s never been part of the package with Ohtani. 

Yep, his heat combined with the splitter is the big thing for him.

[UndertheHalo]

Just now, rafibomb said:

He didn’t throw any I don’t think. Those pitches in the 80’s were just sliders

I thought I saw maybe 2.  They were not hit. 

[Bronson]

7 minutes ago, Hufflepuff said:

This might not be the time to be letting him regain his old form. Pretty much just took an L to see that he's not ready. 

Woah woah. Stop overreacting.

[John Taylor]

Shohei's breaking ball didn't look terrible, some spots could have been called strikes on the breaking ball, his fastball was off but his velocity did start to improve (91-92 but was hitting 94-95 before he got yanked), although his control on the FB never improved. I don't think he threw a single splitter (Maybe he threw 1?) so basically what we saw was a pitcher who looked like he was in his 2nd or 3rd Spring Training start.

 

So in conclusion there is no conclusion.

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

8 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

Announcing your non *snowflake* credentials basically guarantees the opposite actually. 

snowflakes don't last long in SoCal.

[eligrba4ever]

It's just the top of the third? It seems like it should be the sixth.

[Pancake Bear]

6 minutes ago, Bronson said:

Saying Ohtani shouldn’t pitch anymore this year in a 60 game season is not overreacting. 

If the season doesn’t matter, he should absolutely be pitching. How else would he get ready for 2021? Seriously, this kind of post is the posting near-equivalent of Shohei’s game today. Unlike the above post, there is every reason to believe Ohtani will actually improve. 

[Lou]

7 minutes ago, Bronson said:

No, it isn’t. But again you know what they say about opinions. And we both have one on this matter.

Your asshole is overreacting.

[eligrba4ever]

Just now, calscuf said:

I just got home. Wasn’t Ohtani supposed to start?

You don't wanna know. Just start from here and enjoy a couple of cool ones.