Dylan Bundy to the Angels for Isaac Mattson, Zach Peek, Kyle Bradish, and Kyle Brnovich

[mmc]

 

[totdprods]

4 minutes ago, hangin n wangin said:

Canning is better than Bundy, Roark, and Pineda. Probably even Teheran. Why waste Canning in triple A?

Is he? Long-term, yeah, hopefully. Maybe as soon as next year. Maybe not. Weaver, Lackey, Santana all took a step back in their sophomore campaign. We shouldn’t expect Canning to just automatically improve because he’s gotten his rookie season out of the way. Plus he’s a legit injury concern at this point, at least to me still. Pre-draft and last season, he’s had issues. 

Pineda had a better ERA, WHIP, FIP, more WAR. Roark a little worse in some stats, but pretty similar, and a track record of durability and stability. Teheran as well. 

[jsnpritchett]

 

[tdawg87]

We overpaid

[Chuck]

Good! We didn't trade anyone in our top 15-20 range. 

[AngelsLakersFan]

Just now, Lou said:

101

Seems reasonable. Sounds like we might need to find another ~100 innings on the FA market.

[tdawg87]

2 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

?  He threw 113 1/3 in 2018 and 106 1/3 this year.

Who are you talking about?

[Second Base]

Ok...... I'm ok with that, I think. I don't know who Brnovch is.

[aznhockeyguy]

15 minutes ago, PattyD22 said:

I just want a pitcher who can stay healthy and who can keep the ball out of the Trout Farm or the Coors Light Garden.

Can Bundy be that guy?

Based on his numbers, no.  He gives up the long ball.

[totdprods]

Can’t complain on that. I’m sure one or two of those guys will wind up making the bigs and being alright, but, for now, it looks like a fair price to pay. 

[AngelsLakersFan]

2 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

?  He threw 113 1/3 in 2018 and 106 1/3 this year.

You’re right, I added wrong, but the point still stands. How many innings are you penciling him in for this year?

[Second Base]

Bradish is the best prospect of the bunch, behind Mattson. A couple major leaguers there, but from where I'm standing right now, it doesn't look too bad.

Edited December 4, 2019 by Second Base

[Make Angels Great Again]

Bradish and Mattson the real prizes there for Balt.

 

Hopefully this one doesn't hurt down the line. I was looking forward to seeing Mattson.

[mulwin444]

So, Eppler traded multiple warm bodies for Dylan Bundy.

Cool...

[jsnpritchett]

2 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

Who are you talking about?

Canning, as I quoted.

[Warfarin]

Ok.. well, let’s still go get Cole and Ryu.  Cole, Ryu, Ohtani, Bundy, Heaney, Canning.  Barria, Sandoval, and Suarez as depth.

[UndertheHalo]

It’s all dog shit.  Decent chance none of these guys are major leaguers on a regular basis.  Mattson is the headliner.  We’re getting a young controllable guy who’s averaged 29 starts a season for nothing as far as I’m concerned.  It’s a good thing Baltimore doesn’t give a shit about winning.  At all.  Apparently.  There’s a decent chance that the Angels can get more out of Bundythen Baltimore did as well.  

Edited December 4, 2019 by UndertheHalo

[totdprods]

1 minute ago, Second Base said:

Bradish is the best prospect of the bunch, behind Mattson. A couple major leaguers there, but from where I'm standing right now, it doesn't look too bad.

Yup - I mean for all we know, Bradish becomes the next Clevinger or Mattson or Brnovich become relief studs, but two of those guys haven’t even thrown a pitch for us yet, and we can draft pretty much an identical quartet this summer. A good trade on paper. 

[rafibomb]

Damn I really liked Bradish but all in all I'd say we gave up the bare minimum

Edited December 4, 2019 by rafibomb

[Angelsjunky]

Sign Wade Miley and Martin Maldonado and call it an off-season.

[UndertheHalo]

Is Bradish ? Mattson seems like the closest and likeliest to actually be in the majors. 

[Chuck]

Now trade Sandoval or Suarez and someone like Jordyn Adams for Contreras and Darvish. Sign Gerrit Cole. Done!

Added offense from a position of weakness for the Halos and added an ace-like arm to trio up with Ohtani and Cole. 

[Bronson]

2 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

It’s all dog shit.  Decent chance none of these guys are major leaguers on a regular basis.  Mattson is the headliner.  We’re getting a young controllable guy who’s averaged 29 starts a season for nothing as far as I’m concerned.  It’s a good thing Baltimore doesn’t give a shit about winning.  At all.  Apparently.  There’s a decent chance that the Angels can get more out of Bundythen Baltimore did as well.  

Who knows what Callaway can get out of him. We might have another Arrieta on our hands... (half joking)

[ten ocho recon scout]

Im decently good with this. A few years ago he was pretty hyped. Since then, meh. More bud bundy than kelly.

But maybe coming to the west, out of the al east band box parks helps

[Don]

9 minutes ago, Second Base said:

Ok, no Hernandez, Kochanowicz, Sandoval, Rodriguez, Soriano or Canning.

Also, Dylan Bundy feels so much like Matt Harvey. Former top pick with great stuff has career derailed by injuries, settles in as back of the rotation starter.

It's a little different I think. Harvey had all sorts of issues, and was going into his age 30 season. Bundy has been healthy really for the last 3 years (28, 31, and 30 starts), and is going into his age 27 season. If he can make some adjustments that lead to giving up fewer HRs or hits in general, he suddenly becomes a pretty good #4-ish starter. We could be catching him at just the right time in his career, and keep him pretty cheaply for another couple of years. Or who knows, maybe it doesn't work out and we didn't give up any major prospects to get him. To me this is a good example of a medium to high upside deal, with a downside that's stomachable at least.