Dylan Bundy to the Angels for Isaac Mattson, Zach Peek, Kyle Bradish, and Kyle Brnovich

[Dick B Back]

And as long as we didn’t trade Clevinger... oops, never mind.

[AngelsLakersFan]

2 minutes ago, ukyah said:

better get used to the idea.

No u!

[hangin n wangin]

Perfect example of a guy that has good looking stuff but still gets hammered. Just not that good a pitcher in my opinion. I liked him as a prospect a few years ago but he has only got worse from there. Like Blanton type numbers. Maybe his numbers improve a bit here, but how much do they really if he’s still can’t throw a fastball that fools hitters? 

we didn’t give a lot up (I don’t think) and if he’s a back end/depth starter, I’m fine with it, but it we’re trying to be sneaky with the pitching again hoping a Harvey type pitcher will be good (that’s what this signing is)... well then I guess I will just continue to hope this organization knows what it’s doing.

[Don]

Just now, greginpsca said:

will reserve  my opinion on the deal until the others are announced. Mattson jumped  fron A+ to AAA in 2019 . Really good numbers. 

I had honestly never heard of him before today, but looked at his BR page after I saw the news. Looks like a pretty good 19th round pick. Seemed to put up real solid numbers in the minors overall last year. Guessing he profiles as an average to slightly above average middle reliever in the bigs?

[totdprods]

9 minutes ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

Obviously too soon to rate this deal but Bundy has always been a great option for a third arm. Of course the fear here is that Eppler has already stated that he’s targeting two arms this offseason. Not sure I like the idea of Bundy being our second biggest acquisition.

Yeah, I’m a little optimistic and hopeful still that the Angels net three SPs this winter. I know it bumps someone like Canning to AAA initially, but good depth is a great thing to have. The Angels can hopefully sign Cole, a cheaper arm like Teheran, Roark, Wood, Pineda, and add that to Bundy for a nice rotation with depth to play with, and maybe a little money for catcher, bullpen, or bench help too. 

His presence also lets the Angels wait out that market for a second arm too, maybe nab someone later in winter on a good deal, like Keuchel. 

Be interesting if they are in on Bumgarner. 

Edited December 4, 2019 by totdprods

[goldenGlove]

1 minute ago, Bronson said:

Can’t tell if serious or not...

Our leader in IP had a -0.3 WAR. Our leader in IP pitched 102 innings.

Our leader in SP WAR was a rookie at 1.1

Bundy almost equaled our top 2 leaders in IP and WAR combined 

Unless we gave up someone great we don't know about yet, yes we needed someone like this

[rafibomb]

everyone waiting to hear who the other 3 prospects are 

[AngelsLakersFan]

Just now, totdprods said:

Yeah, I’m a little optimistic and hopeful still that the Angels net three SPs this winter. I know it bumps someone like Canning to AAA initially, but good depth is a great thing to have. The Angels can hopefully sign Cole, a cheaper arm like Teheran, Roark, Wood, Pineda, and add that to Bundy for a nice rotation with depth to play with, and maybe a little money for catcher, bullpen, or bench help too. 

I would be happy with that offseason. 

sadly a hallmark of Eppler off seasons has been breaking camp at least one player short. Great teams typically have a player surplus, which is what Canning at AAA would represent.

[mulwin444]

Every time I hear the term "overpay" in relation to prospects we gave up in a trade, I always think back to the Huston Street trade and how we "gave up too much".

(Narrator: they were four bad players)

[Second Base]

Please don't F this up Eppler.

[totdprods]

Just now, AngelsLakersFan said:

I would be happy with that offseason. 

sadly a hallmark of Eppler off seasons has been breaking camp at least one player short. Great teams typically have a player surplus, which is what Canning at AAA would represent.

My feelings exactly. I want our AAA team loaded, even if it means taking on some early season risk in 2020. 

[hangin n wangin]

4 minutes ago, totdprods said:

Yeah, I’m a little optimistic and hopeful still that the Angels net three SPs this winter. I know it bumps someone like Canning to AAA initially, but good depth is a great thing to have. The Angels can hopefully sign Cole, a cheaper arm like Teheran, Roark, Wood, Pineda, and add that to Bundy for a nice rotation with depth to play with, and maybe a little money for catcher, bullpen, or bench help too. 

Canning is better than Bundy, Roark, and Pineda. Probably even Teheran. Why waste Canning in triple A?

[UndertheHalo]

There’s a lot of meme possibility with this get.  Al Bundy becoming a mainstay of Angel fan posting content is a thing I deeply respect.  Very forward thinking fan interaction from the front office. Congrats to everyone.  

Edited December 4, 2019 by UndertheHalo

[mulwin444]

Or how we sweated trading Sean Newcomb for Andrelton Simmons

[greginpsca]

1 minute ago, Don said:

I had honestly never heard of him before today, but looked at his BR page after I saw the news. Looks like a pretty good 19th round pick. Seemed to put up real solid numbers in the minors overall last year. Guessing he profiles as an average to slightly above average middle reliever in the bigs?

He played in the AFL this Fall, and was good there too. I hope Bundy does what is expected of him , or this deal could be lopsided in the O's favor, depending on the other 3 pitchers going to the O's.

 

[Lou]

1 minute ago, mulwin444 said:

Every time I hear the term "overpay" in relation to prospects we gave up in a trade, I always think back to the Huston Street trade and how we "gave up too much".

(Narrator: they were four bad players)

that was an epic thread 

[mulwin444]

Just now, Lou said:

that was an epic thread 

It was quite...hyperbolic

[AngelsLakersFan]

Just now, totdprods said:

My feelings exactly. I want our AAA team loaded, even if it means taking on some early season risk in 2020. 

One mistake I see a lot of people making is thinking about Ohtani as two full time players. He’s a great #2 in a rotation but he isn’t coming close to 180 innings next year. He’s a great DH but he is at best getting a little over half the ABs there. There needs to be talented depth to cover there.

[tdawg87]

3 minutes ago, hangin n wangin said:

Canning is better than Bundy, Roark, and Pineda. Probably even Teheran. Why waste Canning in triple A?

Lol he's not better than Teheran. 

[totdprods]

Just now, AngelsLakersFan said:

One mistake I see a lot of people making is thinking about Ohtani as two full time players. He’s a great #2 in a rotation but he isn’t coming close to 180 innings next year. He’s a great DH but he is at best getting a little over half the ABs there. There needs to be talented depth to cover there.

We don’t have a single reliable SP on the roster right now. For all the potential these guys have, it’s still just that. Maybe it comes together in 2020. Maybe 2021. We need all the arms we can get and for $5-6m and hopefully just some minor league filler, this is a good add. 

[Second Base]

Ok, no Hernandez, Kochanowicz, Sandoval, Rodriguez, Soriano or Canning.

Also, Dylan Bundy feels so much like Matt Harvey. Former top pick with great stuff has career derailed by injuries, settles in as back of the rotation starter.

[AngelsLakersFan]

3 minutes ago, hangin n wangin said:

Canning is better than Bundy, Roark, and Pineda. Probably even Teheran. Why waste Canning in triple A?

Canning has never thrown 100 innings in his professional career. He finished the year being shut down with a sore arm. How many innings are you penciling him in for?

[JAHV76]

A piece of the pieces 

[Lou]

1 minute ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

Canning has never thrown 100 innings in his professional career. He finished the year being shut down with a sore arm. How many innings are you penciling him in for?

101

[jsnpritchett]

1 minute ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

Canning has never thrown 100 innings in his professional career. He finished the year being shut down with a sore arm. How many innings are you penciling him in for?

?  He threw 113 1/3 in 2018 and 106 1/3 this year.