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personally, I don’t think the Angels have enough in prospect capital to be able to trade for genuinely impactful players without really undoing all the work they’ve done over the last 4 or 5 years.  So I’m OK with not having done that.  But I’m for sure solidly in the column of the Angels must make Cole and another legit MLB starter happen this offseason.  And we’ve got to hope they can get a decent catcher somehow also.  Getting Martin Maldonado would be a really lame settle, but something like that is possibly what we’ll have to just accept it looks like. 

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I don’t think we could even use Adams as headliner for a mid rotation type.  We’d really, really risk selling very low on him.  It doesn’t make sense to stack like 4 of our better lower minors guys - bats - for a like 4 or 5 starter.  It would be a big mistake.

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Eppler has contingencies in place. Think about it this way, after Odorizzi went back to the Twins, Gibson to the Rangers, Hamels to the Braves and Wheeler to the Phillies, it would seem that Eppler went to his backup plan, he acquired Bundy. 

Eppler is likely going to sign Gerrit Cole, but this comes with a whole host of questions. Chief among these, would be, did Eppler have the go ahead to spend the funds necessary to secure both Cole and Wheeler? After all, There Angels were in on Wheeler and waited until after he signed to trade for Bundy. And if the funds were indeed available, would Eppler have the go ahead to spend the funds necessary to secure Strasburg and Cole? The difference between Strasburg and Wheeler likely comes out to somewhere between 5-10 million per year. But keep in mind, the Phillies got Wheeler at a little over 23 million per year. Maybe the Angels weren't going over 20.

But Eppler has said all along, and I believe it to be true, his big thing he looks for is value. He doesn't want to overspend, he's pretty conservative that way. If all it took to bring in Strasburg was simply replacing that 4/100 he's owed and replace it with 6/150, then the Nats may have already re-signed him. If that were the price, Eppler would certainly see the value and I think you'd have a shot at both. More than likely, Strasburg will cost 6/180. 

At any rate, the most disappointing part of all of this, is that because Bundy was a contingency, it also makes it likely that he was the second pitcher acquired, unless there really is a Cole-Strasburg possibility. And if Dylan Bundy is indeed pitcher number two.....fire Eppler. 

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The San Diego Padres have acquired outfielder Tommy Pham and an additional prospect from the Tampa Bay Rays in exchange for Hunter Renfroe and shortstop prospect Xavier Edwards, reports ESPN's Jeff Passan.

The additional player heading to San Diego is minor-league shortstop Jake Cronenworth, according to Dennis Lin of The Athletic.

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5 minutes ago, Lou said:

The San Diego Padres have acquired outfielder Tommy Pham and an additional prospect from the Tampa Bay Rays in exchange for Hunter Renfroe and shortstop prospect Xavier Edwards, reports ESPN's Jeff Passan.

The additional player heading to San Diego is minor-league shortstop Jake Cronenworth, according to Dennis Lin of The Athletic.

What a slapdi** move!

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14 minutes ago, Second Base said:

Shucks.....I was hoping for Avila if not Castro.

I’m holding out hope for Castro, Maldonado, or Phegley. 

Avila would’ve been nice but I think he’s been available every single offseason that Eppler has been here - and also needed a catcher - so either Avila doesn’t want to be here or Eppler isn’t interested. 

Edited by totdprods

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1 hour ago, Second Base said:

Eppler has contingencies in place. Think about it this way, after Odorizzi went back to the Twins, Gibson to the Rangers, Hamels to the Braves and Wheeler to the Phillies, it would seem that Eppler went to his backup plan, he acquired Bundy. 

Eppler is likely going to sign Gerrit Cole, but this comes with a whole host of questions. Chief among these, would be, did Eppler have the go ahead to spend the funds necessary to secure both Cole and Wheeler? After all, There Angels were in on Wheeler and waited until after he signed to trade for Bundy. And if the funds were indeed available, would Eppler have the go ahead to spend the funds necessary to secure Strasburg and Cole? The difference between Strasburg and Wheeler likely comes out to somewhere between 5-10 million per year. But keep in mind, the Phillies got Wheeler at a little over 23 million per year. Maybe the Angels weren't going over 20.

But Eppler has said all along, and I believe it to be true, his big thing he looks for is value. He doesn't want to overspend, he's pretty conservative that way. If all it took to bring in Strasburg was simply replacing that 4/100 he's owed and replace it with 6/150, then the Nats may have already re-signed him. If that were the price, Eppler would certainly see the value and I think you'd have a shot at both. More than likely, Strasburg will cost 6/180. 

At any rate, the most disappointing part of all of this, is that because Bundy was a contingency, it also makes it likely that he was the second pitcher acquired, unless there really is a Cole-Strasburg possibility. And if Dylan Bundy is indeed pitcher number two.....fire Eppler. 

Based on Etten’s well done primer on financials it would be improbable to sign both Cole and Strasburg. It’s going to be Cole and Bundy plus a cheap catcher. If Cole doesn’t sign here I don’t think Strasburg is Plan B. 

We either sign Cole or get Coal.

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13 minutes ago, Jay said:

I wonder who offered him two years?

I think one of the Florida teams reportedly offered him a two-year deal early on. Probably Miami. 

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1 minute ago, Stradling said:

I was thinking he would be a perfect signing for a team like Tampa.  Plays multiple positions and can still hit.  

My guess is they only offered one and Miami two, and Kendrick wasn’t interested in playing for Miami. TB seems way more likely to be risk-averse and balled at offering two. Seems they go year to year with their assets a lot to minimize any sort of dead money .

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53 minutes ago, Angelsfan1984 said:

If bringing in Maldonado on the cheap means they spend more money on pitching. I'm 100% behind it. I can live with the offensive numbers given his ability to handle a staff and keep running games honest.

The only catchers remaining are all gonna come pretty cheap. I don’t think it means much in regards to what they spend on pitching. 

I love Maldonado. Best catcher they’ve had since Molina, I’d welcome him back in a heartbeat, even if his bat sucks. He tended to have a clutch hit here and there. 

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