Uh oh...Iraq

[mtangelsfan]

...and yet here you are on bait that I set out expressly for Jay.

I didn't even have to use the word "Berkeley."

C'mon, man.

 

meh, I forgot your tactics in the spin forum.  Fool me once.................................

[RallyMo]

meh, I forgot your tactics in the spin forum. Fool me once.................................

Shame on you, sir!

[AngelsLongBall]

Shame on you, sir!

Fool me twice...can't get fooled again!

[Schildog]

jay, you're really justifying the iraq thing? 

[Jay]

Actually I was just trying to give Hillary a break.

[Hollyw00d]

the saga continues... wu tang wu tang,

protect ya neck, kid...

too soon?

[nate]

I voted for GWB in 2000... and 2004.  Voted Obama in 2008.

 

I lament all of those votes.  At least there is no shame in my Johnson vote in 2012.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

figuring out the "somewhere in the middle solution" is the big problem.

 

as someone once said, islam does not want to be reasoned with. it wants to be obeyed. that seems especially true with IS, and that's why there may not be an intermediate solution.

 

When you're dealing with people with fixed, rigid viewpoints the solution is not easy. I don't know the answer either.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

I voted for GWB in 2000... and 2004.  Voted Obama in 2008.

 

I lament all of those votes.  At least there is no shame in my Johnson vote in 2012.

 

One thing I can say with complete honesty: I have never voted for anyone named Bush, and I have no regrets. History has proven me right, IMO.

[mtangelsfan]

One thing I can say with complete honesty: I have never voted for anyone named Bush, and I have no regrets. History has proven me right, IMO.

 

Hindsight, its the bomb.  Really no way of knowing if Dukakis, Gore or Kerry would be any different or better.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

At least they weren't stupid, which is an automatic improvement over what we got with W. Don't know about Dukakis and Bush, Sr.

[Caralho]

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2014/08/11/236000/us-airstrikes-helped-but-kurds.html?sp=/99/100/&ihp=1

[gotbeer]

'Heroic' mission rescues desperate Yazidis from ISIS

 

 

The video on this link is just Gnar.  Just sad what's happening to these people.

[Don]

Hindsight, its the bomb.  Really no way of knowing if Dukakis, Gore or Kerry would be any different or better.

I suspect it wouldn't have made much of a difference from a foreign policy perspective. From 2001 to about 2004/5, most politicians on both sides of the aisle were pretty pro-war, as was most of the American public.

[mtangelsfan]

At least they weren't stupid, which is an automatic improvement over what we got with W. Don't know about Dukakis and Bush, Sr.

 

ah yes, that old meme.  I bet he's way smarter than you.  Are you proud of those votes for Obama?

[TobiasFunke]

'Heroic' mission rescues desperate Yazidis from ISIS

 

 

The video on this link is just Gnar.  Just sad what's happening to these people.

 

Get 'em all out of there

[AngelsLongBall]

Get 'em all out of there

We need to wipe the smear that is ISIS off the map

[Tank]

dubya always refused to give a public date of when he would withdraw our forces, citing that he didn't want to give any of the enemies out there a warning that the US would be out of the way.

 

perhaps we're now seeing what he meant.

[AngelsLongBall]

dubya always refused to give a public date of when he would withdraw our forces, citing that he didn't want to give any of the enemies out there a warning that the US would be out of the way.

 

perhaps we're now seeing what he meant.

but dubya was stupid, didn't you get the memo?  This must surely just be a coincidence

[Caralho]

Yes, because you can withdraw that many troops secretly. It's been almost three years since American troops left, do you really think they should have stayed longer? 

[RallyMo]

Yes, because you can withdraw that many troops secretly. It's been almost three years since American troops left, do you really think they should have stayed longer?

We were going to slowly replace the troops with cardboard cutouts. It was going to be genious.

[arch stanton]

I suspect it wouldn't have made much of a difference from a foreign policy perspective. From 2001 to about 2004/5, most politicians on both sides of the aisle were pretty pro-war, as was most of the American public.

This you can blame on my generation of the military. We made Desert Storm look easy, like all smart bombs and white flags to CNN. No politician wanted to miss out on a chance to organize a victory parade back in the home district or maybe get a few days embedded with the troops. That's good old fashioned All-American bandwagon campaigning at its finest.

[TobiasFunke]

We need to wipe the smear that is ISIS off the map

I guess that's the difference between you and me. I want innocent civilians directly in danger to be saved, you want to fight a people/ideology that has no borders

[AngelsLongBall]

Tomato tomatoe

[TobiasFunke]

Not really, but ok