Bourjos traded to Cardinals

[DB24]

People are thinking Bourjos is worth a lot more than he actually is.

 

That said...primary need is pitching...doesn't seem like this would address the club's need for pitching.

 

^ this

[Scott34]

There is no way I am reading 13 pages but here are my thoughts:

 

What. The. ****.

 

F-

 

Not only have we acquired a 3B who would be less valuable than Jimenez and a project RP, but we lost our ability to trade for a big time SP.  Bourjos is gone so now we cannot deal Trumbo.  And the net SP gain: ZERO

 

Not to mention how shitty our defense is now.  We were horrible defensively last year and we just took a long jump backwards.

 

Unbelieveable.  Lost all faith in Dipoto.

 

 

Edit:  Also, Grichuk was my #4 prospect.  I think he's a guy.

Edited November 22, 2013 by Scott34

[tennischmp]

Peter Bourjos is over rated in here. He can't even stay healthy. Good riddance

I heard the same thing when they traded Napoli. He is overrated, can't catch and Scioscia won't play him.

[KevinStockerIsGod]

If you weren't going to start Bourjos this year, his value would have been even worse next year.  Might as well get something we can use.

[seenoevil]

I guess some morons in here think we can trade Bourjos for an all star pitcher.. 

[Richard]

They better be ALL IN on Calhoun now. 

[Catwhoshatinthehat]

then don't trade him now when his value is low due to injury. 

 

He's been in the bigs since 2010 and the last 2 years he's missed considerable time.  Where the Angels supposed to trot him out there in 2014 hoping he stays healthy, produces and his value increases while keeping a player they supposedly like in Calhoun on the bench? 

[YouthofToday]

1. Will the last prospect left in our system please close the lights? Do we have a GUY left?

2. Trades like this is why the Cardinals always compete with a mid-market payroll.

3. This club will rot in mediocrity for the next decade.

[Spirit]

@AngelsWin 

Maybe the most important thing here is ....Don Baylor gets his #25 back!

[xboom28x]

perfect, back to the personal insult tactics. 

 

If that insults you, you are very sensitive and don't belong on a message board.

[nate]

I think where we got hosed here is including Grichuk and only getting a shitty middle reliever back.

 

I think this means Jerome will not be back.

[nate]

Nobody overrates our players and coaches more than Lifetime.

[seenoevil]

When did Peter Bourjos (I'm always Hurt) turn into Mike Trout???

[jshep]

DSzymborski

So, essentially, the Angels fix a bad trade in trading Bourjos for Freese by adding on a second bad one in Grichuk for Salas?

 

"I'll give you $30 for your ham sandwich. Wait, that's a bad trade. How about $60 for your sandwich and can of Coke?" #bourjostrade

[nikkachez]

Bourjos and Grichuk for Freese and...Salas. FML 

[Tyler]

I'm fine with trading Bourjos now. However, not with the Cardinals after they rejected him straight up for David Freaking Freese. Find another suitor, one that will help with the PITCHING.

[Scott34]

Dipoto fooled everyone.  His moves have been terrible for the most part.

[Lifetime]

He's been in the bigs since 2010 and the last 2 years he's missed considerable time.  Where the Angels supposed to trot him out there in 2014 hoping he stays healthy, produces and his value increases while keeping a player they supposedly like in Calhoun on the bench? 

yes, because when he is healthy he is a considerable value. If he doesn't stay healthy, you have Calhoun to take his place. If he does stay healthy you either trade him for a higher value return or you trade someone else. 

[2002_halos_II]

Dippi strikes out again

[AngelsLakersFan]

 

Cardinals Continue Being Smart, Acquire Peter Bourjos

by Dave Cameron - November 22, 2013

To get Bourjos, the Cardinals sent Anaheim third baseman David Freese and reliever Fernando Salas. Salas is basically nothing, so this can be seen as essentially a Freese for Bourjos swap from the Cardinals perspective. And it’s hard not to love that exchange for St. Louis. Freese has value and is a decent buy-low candidate for the Angels, but his offensive performances have always been heavily driven by BABIP, and his defense went from okay to terrible last year. Even if you expect a nice rebound season, Freese still projects as an inferior player to Bourjos, he has one less year of team control, and will be more expensive in his final two seasons of arbitration. Oh, he’s also older, and not exactly the picture of durability himself.

It’s hard to see any area where Freese is better than Bourjos. This trade will be sold as speed-and-defense for power, but Bourjos actually has a higher career Isolated Slugging mark than Freese does. This is an average hitting elite defender for a slightly above average hitting meh defender, only the meh defender costs more and is closer to the end of his career.

 

----

 

The Angels needed a third baseman, I guess, but they traded a good player for a worse player who costs more. Anaheim keeps spinning their wheels, while the Cardinals keep marching on towards sustained excellence. Some things really do stay the same.

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/cardinals-continue-being-smart-acquire-peter-bourjos/

 

 

Scathing. And he didn't even know the Angels give up their top OF prospect in the deal. LOL

[tennischmp]

If you weren't going to start Bourjos this year, his value would have been even worse next year. Might as well get something we can use.

Again same thing was said when we got Wells... It's not always a good move just to get a warm body we can use Edited November 22, 2013 by tennischmp

[SoWhat]

Grichuk for Salas is what sealed Dipoto's fate with me. This organization just keeps taking giant leaps backwards

[Lifetime]

Nobody overrates our players and coaches more than Lifetime.

what a load of crap nate. 

[seenoevil]

oh my god, what a bunch of jack asses I had to read in the 1st few pages of this thread. lol Peter Bourjos must of been a great player behind my back

[Lifetime]

If that insults you, you are very sensitive and don't belong on a message board.

right.

 

There's considerable irony in that statement xboom.