Bourjos traded to Cardinals

[HaloFan85]

Ok. But where do you play Calhoun? Would you rather see Bourjos out there over Calhoun? I certainly wouldn't.

In RF.  Bourjos plays a full year in SLC, and coming off a broken wrist, I'm sure he would've glady accepted.

Edited November 22, 2013 by Geoff

[Catwhoshatinthehat]

yes, because when he is healthy he is a considerable value. If he doesn't stay healthy, you have Calhoun to take his place. If he does stay healthy you either trade him for a higher value return or you trade someone else. 

 

That's what they did in 2013.  After 2012 people were talking about him bouncing back and either being an every day player or increasing his trade value.  Calhoun's success made their decision after 2013 easier.

[Dreams]

One step closer to Zach Borenstein joining the big club?

[Corona]

Lol at this thread.

[jshep]

One step closer to Zach Borenstein joining the big club? being traded for more scraps?

 

Fixed.

[Tyler]

Dipoto fooled everyone.  His moves have been terrible for the most part.

 

Not everyone...

[Jason]

Might be a crap deal but only the play on the field will determine that. We have to wait and see.

[seenoevil]

We should had traded Bourjos for Kershaw , dam you Jerry (sarcasm)

[Chris]

Does this mean Hamilton-LF, Trout-CF, and Calhoun-RF?

 

I'd be fine with that.

[tdawg87]

I was just diagnosed with trAIDS.

[jshep]

We should had traded Bourjos for Kershaw , dam you Jerry (sarcasm)

 

these are some quality strawmen you're building here. Keep it up!

[ettin]

On 11/22/2013 at 11:56 AM, Chuck Richter said:

No shit Sherlock. But where do you play Calhoun? Would you rather see Bourjos out there over Calhoun? I certainly wouldn't.

 

Chuck with all due respect this is why I wanted to trade Trumbo, whose value is high right now, so that we could have Bourjos in CF while Calhoun swapped in and out with Hamilton between DH/RF.

 

I think if this trade holds true (Bourjos/Grichuk for Freese/Salas) it was a losing one for us in many ways. In fact I'd go further and say that the fact they want to keep Trumbo over Bourjos shows a real lack of faith in Hamilton and his power staying consistent (thus the need for Mark's power in the lineup).

 

Edited December 26, 2017 by ettin

[Lifetime]

That's what they did in 2013.  After 2012 people were talking about him bouncing back and either being an every day player or increasing his trade value.  Calhoun's success made their decision after 2013 easier.

and he did bounce back and he was an every day player, then he got injured. Then he got hit by a pitch. Then he tried to come back too soon and play through considerable pain in his hand. He had a run of injuries but these are not the type that spell perpetually injury prone.

[gotbeer]

Does this mean Hamilton-LF, Trout-CF, and Calhoun-RF?

 

I'd be fine with that.

 

I have a feeling it means Trout CF, Hamilton RF, Shuck LF.

 

Shuck looked like Scioscia's choice to lead off last year.

[AngelsLakersFan]

He's been in the bigs since 2010 and the last 2 years he's missed considerable time.  Where the Angels supposed to trot him out there in 2014 hoping he stays healthy, produces and his value increases while keeping a player they supposedly like in Calhoun on the bench? 

 

I think it says a lot that the Cardinals are more than willing to take this risk.

[wopphil]

When the Wells trade happened, every knowledgeable baseball pundit panned the Angels.  They all turned out to be right.  Here, the same thing is happening.  There can be no doubt this was a one-sided trade. 

[Jimmag]

Welcome to the Angels David Freese! I like getting Freese he shores up third base a problem position for way too long. 

 

 

Will miss you Petey.

[Inside Pitch]

He's been in the bigs since 2010 and the last 2 years he's missed considerable time.  Where the Angels supposed to trot him out there in 2014 hoping he stays healthy, produces and his value increases while keeping a player they supposedly like in Calhoun on the bench? 

 

Good thing we got Mr Ironman at 3B now right?

FYI..  

2009 - Freese was expected to be the team's starting third baseman, but was quickly passed over by Brian Barden and Joe Thurston.^[14] He was optioned to Triple-A Memphis on April 20, 2009 to make room for newly acquired reliever Blaine Boyer.^[15] He later had surgery to repair a left ankle injury that hampered him during spring training.^[1] He missed two months of the season.

 

2010 - Freese began the 2010 season as the Cardinals' starting third baseman. However, he suffered a right ankle injury in June. This injury required him to have two ankle surgeries and ended his season after 70 games.^[1]

 

2011 - Freese was projected to start the 2011 season,^[17] and he was named the starter on Opening Day, despite suffering minor ailments during spring training.^[17] He started off the year batting over .320, but was hit by a pitch that fractured his left hand, and missed 51 games

 

2013 - After suffering a back injury in spring training and starting the 2013 season on the disabled list, Freese struggled at the plate for much of the first six weeks of the season, having only four RBIs by mid-May

 

And apparently the party line is that his back injury lingered throughout the year and caused his "down" year.   No problem, back injuries are never a long term problem.   

 

Freese can at least get on base -- so he's not a total POS.    But this is a bad start to the offseason.

[Scott34]

Freese is due to make how much?!?! Jesus.

[tennischmp]

Welcome to the Angels David Freese! I like getting Freese he shores up third base a problem position for way too long.

Will miss you Petey.

The third base was just better half a year ago Edited November 22, 2013 by tennischmp

[AngelsLakersFan]

Dipoto fooled everyone.  His moves have been terrible for the most part.

 

I hate to agree. Not sure what his issue is, he seems very bright but these agents and GM's are constantly taking him to the cleaners. Perhaps he has no balls.

[tdawg87]

It's going to be hilarious when Freese starts the year on the DL.

[jshep]

Freese is due to make how much?!?! Jesus.

 

Between Freese and Salas(who ya, is also arb eligible!), MLBTradeRumors's projections have the Angels adding about 4 million in this cluster****.

[Turd Ferguson]

I have been as big a DiPoto fan as anyone, but I'm not less confident in his ability to turn this team around then I ever have been.  Whatever Bourjos' perceived value is, it makes no sense to trade him and further deplete an already barren farm system for what they got in return.  I guess when you demand that you win now at all costs, this is what you get.  Could be a downright frightening offseason.

[Inside Pitch]

DSzymborski

So, essentially, the Angels fix a bad trade in trading Bourjos for Freese by adding on a second bad one in Grichuk for Salas?

 

"I'll give you $30 for your ham sandwich. Wait, that's a bad trade. How about $60 for your sandwich and can of Coke?" #bourjostrade

 

 

Thats just perfect...