Official 2021 Trade Deadline Discussion Thread

[Inside Pitch]

35 minutes ago, Taylor said:

Does Siera use the same calculation as CERA?

No but it accounts for awful defense...

I'm on lockdown cause a bunch of turds caught Covid at my firm... so I was bored and looking at a ton of Statcast data... specifically outs above average. 

The Angels have 5 pitchers listed in the bottom 50.... (653 pitchers)  Canning, Quintana, Sandoval, Cobb, Cishek.    Bundy just missed but he's in the bottom 60 at -3. 

The top 408 are Zero or positive defenses behind them.  The Angels have 6 of the bottom 60 all at -3 or more with Cannng at the very bottom at -7.  Only 25 MLB pitchers have been victimized for -5 runs above average, the Angels have three of them.

If you look at actual run prevented, the Angels have 5 in the bottom 40.  Bundy, Quintana, Canning, Sandoval, Cobb....  Cishek at 55 btw.

When you consider that some of these guys have already been pulled from the rotation and haven't been pitching as much those numbers are BRUTAL.

But...  It's not the defense according to some.

 

[Second Base]

I don't understand Scherzer. He won't go to New York because he prefers the West Coast but it's open to Boston, which is also East Coast and is basically the same degree of a shit hole as New York. 

[Lou]

6 minutes ago, Second Base said:

I don't understand Scherzer. He won't go to New York because he prefers the West Coast but it's open to Boston, which is also East Coast and is basically the same degree of a shit hole as New York. 

Since when do the Nats play on the west coast?

[Angel Oracle]

1 hour ago, angelsnationtalk said:

If you mean to trade for Scherzer? yes, though I really doubt it costs top top prospects for him.

If you mean to add into the bullpen? yes and no. Yes to fill but a big no-no to force them to produce in the playoffs. 

They need a seasoned vet if they wanna beat the Dodgers..... Or anyone. 

Sorry about that, was meant more for your thought on Cobb and Iglesias.

Padres could use a starter and a late innings guy.

Although closer look shows that they have plenty after Melancon in the pen.

Cobb could still lead to a decent enough prospect(s) acquisition.

Edited July 29, 2021 by Angel Oracle

[angelsnationtalk]

4 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

Sorry about that, was meant more for your thought on Cobb and Iglesias.

Padres could use a starter and a late innings guy.

Although closer look shows that they have plenty after Melancon in the pen.

Cobb could still lead to a decent enough prospect(s) acquisition.

The best place to get Cobb and Iglesias if we packaged them would be to the Dodgers.

They could use mid-rotation help and their late-inning relief is a shit show (which i love to see). 

I'm really hoping Padres get Scherzer, Mariners get Berrios and Athletics get Story+Gray.

Would only help the Angels' situation of selling Cobb and Iglesias to the Dodgers that much better.

They match up perfectly. 

[Second Base]

15 minutes ago, Lou said:

Since when do the Nats play on the west coast?

The reports from the past couple days indicated he was only willing to waive his 10-5 rights for a contending team on the West Coast. With that information, everyone figured he was probably sick of living back east. And with new info, evidently Boston is in play. 

It's doesn't make a ton of sense. 

[Angelsjunky]

24 minutes ago, Second Base said:

I don't understand Scherzer. He won't go to New York because he prefers the West Coast but it's open to Boston, which is also East Coast and is basically the same degree of a shit hole as New York. 

Have you been to either city? New York is amazing - deservedly considered the greatest city in the world (although I’d argue that London is equally great, and Paris and Tokyo have fans). Boston is far less so, but still with a lot to offer.

And of course both have great baseball franchises.

[totdprods]

1 minute ago, Second Base said:

The reports from the past couple days indicated he was only willing to waive his 10-5 rights for a contending team on the West Coast. With that information, everyone figured he was probably sick of living back east. And with new info, evidently Boston is in play. 

It's doesn't make a ton of sense. 

I think he just hates New York. 

Playing for Boston also helps him beat indulge his hate on New York.

My bet is he does not want to deal with NY media. It's not as bad in LA or Boston. Animal unto itself in NYC.

Edited July 29, 2021 by totdprods

[Second Base]

1 minute ago, totdprods said:

I think he just hates New York. 

Playing for Boston also helps him beat indulge his hate on New York.

My bet is he does not want to deal with NY media. It's not as bad in LA or Boston. Animal unto itself in NYC.

Probably. Personally, I've yet to find an East Coast (Northeast, anything north of the Carolinas) urban area that I actually like. Beautiful rural areas though. 

[angelsnationtalk]

7 minutes ago, Second Base said:

The reports from the past couple days indicated he was only willing to waive his 10-5 rights for a contending team on the West Coast. With that information, everyone figured he was probably sick of living back east. And with new info, evidently Boston is in play. 

It's doesn't make a ton of sense. 

The media claims Boston is back in play. 

So yes, him preferring West Coast still makes sense.

[Lou]

14 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

New York is amazing - deservedly considered the greatest city in the world

What makes it so great?

[Lou]

8 minutes ago, angelsnationtalk said:

The media claims Boston is back in play. 

So yes, him preferring West Coast still makes sense.

He must enjoy the West End.

[mmc]

 

[beatlesrule]

5 minutes ago, Lou said:

What makes it so great?

The pizza? The Nintendo store is there?

[Revad]

21 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

Have you been to either city? New York is amazing - deservedly considered the greatest city in the world…

“Rats on the Westside, bedbugs uptown”

[Stradling]

1 minute ago, beatlesrule said:

The pizza? The Nintendo store is there?

Ok, but what makes it great for adults?

[tdawg87]

Just now, Stradling said:

Ok, but what makes it great for adults?

Listen you little shit

[Docwaukee]

23 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

Have you been to either city? New York is amazing - deservedly considered the greatest city in the world (although I’d argue that London is equally great, and Paris and Tokyo have fans). Boston is far less so, but still with a lot to offer.

And of course both have great baseball franchises.

I've been to New York.  It sucks.  

[Taylor]

Cities in the Northeast U.S. are awesome. So much history. 

 

LA skus.

[Dtwncbad]

If you take out the fantastic weather, truthfully LA is about the least pleasant big city I can think of.  LA sucks.

[Docwaukee]

1 minute ago, Taylor said:

Cities in the Northeast U.S. are awesome. So much history. 

 

LA skus.

History is what you visit.  Not where you live.  

[tdawg87]

1 minute ago, Taylor said:

Cities in the Northeast U.S. are awesome. So much history. 

 

LA skus.

If you say Boston I'm ignoring you.

[Lou]

NY and Paris are the most overrated cities on the planet. 

[Lou]

3 minutes ago, Taylor said:

Cities in the Northeast U.S. are awesome. So much history. 

 

LA skus.

Auschwitz has a lot of history.

Not awesome.

[ten ocho recon scout]

16 hours ago, Angelsfan1984 said:

Then I’m n out will be unstoppable

Im n out should have been alberts nickname when he was here. AO was sleeping on that one