THE Official 2019-2020 Hot Stove Thread

[rottiesworld]

I see the stanks now want Maldonado for Cole. I sure wish the Angels would get him and tell Cole FUC- YOU

[ten ocho recon scout]

10 minutes ago, Swiss Angel Fan said:

I know this is off topic, but looking at the contracts handed out this offseason, Patrick Corbin's 6-year/140 million deal really looks like a bargain!

No kidding, eh? 

[Docwaukee]

Just now, Sean-Regan said:

Lindor. 

I could see that although they're probably even more attached to prospects than Billy.  Friedman has a tough time giving them up after his days with TBR.  

[Angels_Fan]

Just now, rottiesworld said:

I see the stanks now want Maldonado for Cole. I sure wish the Angels would get him and tell Cole FUC- YOU

Or let them have him, while the Angels trade for Contreras instead. 

[Docwaukee]

2 minutes ago, rottiesworld said:

I see the stanks now want Maldonado for Cole. I sure wish the Angels would get him and tell Cole FUC- YOU

I would love to see us get him and have Cole throw to SOB.  that would be great.  

[Pancake Bear]

17 minutes ago, Dochalo said:

I could see that although they're probably even more attached to prospects than Billy.  Friedman has a tough time giving them up after his days with TBR.  

Haven't seen anyone else report that, though. 

[mmc]

 

[vladdy#27]

Would a three team deal where

Team 1 Gets:
Upton
Red Sox prospect

Angels Get:
Price
+8M a year to offset the difference

Red Sox Get:

24M a year saved

Basically following the Cozart trade model. Upton obviously has more value than Cozart, but it is 24M (average) vs 13M, so the Red Sox probably trade a prospect comparable to Wilson. Trading Upton's salary for Price makes sense because we need pitching. Bring back Calhoun on a 1-2 year deal. Open 2020 with LF Goodwin CF Trout RF Calhoun. Finish 2020 with LF Adell CF Trout RF Goodwin/Calhoun. Start 2021 with LF Adell CF Trout RF Goodwin/Calhoun. Finish 2021 with LF Adell CF Trout RF Marsh while trading Calhoun if he's brought back on a 2 year deal.

Makes sense for the Sox because they have 24M extra to use towards extending Betts. It makes sense for us because we need pitching more than we need Upton, plus Upton is blocking Marsh. The difficult part would be finding a team to take on Upton at 3 years/72M and potentially getting Upton to waive his no trade clause. We could also throw in a prospect as well, someone in the 15-30 range.

[Angels_Make_Me_Drink]

37 minutes ago, mymerlincat said:

 

I think Donaldson would be smart to go to the AL where he can utilize the DH position to ease the strain on his calves. Plus, it prohibits the Dodgers from getting better which I love. 

[arch stanton]

Angels should still go get Donaldson and Arenado. Donaldson at 1B and Arenado in RF. Create a 3B shortage around the league 

 

Edited December 12, 2019 by arch stanton

[Lou]

didn't see this posted anywhere:

The Los Angeles Dodgers didn’t leave the winter meetings without signing a free agent pitcher. But it was a bullpen addition, not another starting pitcher, as they inked former A’s reliever Blake Treinen to a one-year deal for $10 million.

 

 

[Stradling]

 

[Stradling]

suck it @mymerlincat

[Stradling]

So with the Mets acquiring two starters the last two days should we expect them to be looking to trade Stroman or Thor?

[totdprods]

Mets signed Porcello and Wacha to go with deGrom, Syndergaard, Stroman, and Matz. And they might need to move money. They could probably use one in the pen though too. 

Stroman would do well here with the infield defense. The Mets are hoping to shed some bad money too. Oakland was interested in Lowrie, wonder if they try to put together a package for an arm plus Lowrie’s salary. They have the prospects and need a good name for the rotation. Of course, the Angels could explore here too.

Edited December 12, 2019 by totdprods

[Stradling]

Well for the right pitcher (Thor, deGrom) at the right price, we will gladly take Cespedes off their hands.  I am thinking deGrom and Cespedes for Baldoquin.  

[CanadianHalo]

29 minutes ago, totdprods said:

Mets signed Porcello and Wacha to go with deGrom, Syndergaard, Stroman, and Matz. And they might need to move money. They could probably use one in the pen though too. 

Stroman would do well here with the infield defense. The Mets are hoping to shed some bad money too. Oakland was interested in Lowrie, wonder if they try to put together a package for an arm plus Lowrie’s salary. They have the prospects and need a good name for the rotation. Of course, the Angels could explore here too.

 

Was just going to suggest Stroman. He’s in the last year of his deal but he’s someone I’d lock up. One of the top pitchers that’ll hit FA next season

[Stradling]

Just now, CanadianHalo said:

 

Was just going to suggest Stroman. He’s in the last year of his deal but he’s someone I’d lock up. One of the top pitchers that’ll hit FA next season

I always under or over value what it would cost to obtain a player in a trade.  Stroman has one year left, so to me it feels like a deal centered around Marsh would be too much.  People also feel like Adams is possibly a year away from breaking out as a prospect, but he might be the one to center a deal around.  In the long run we could regret it as he matures into a great prospect and very good major leaguer.  I'd prefer we found a way to get him with the guys we have already seen, guys like Thaiss (who I am higher on than most) Sandoval, and maybe another arm in low A ball.  No idea how realistic it is but it seems the last several years that guys with one year of control aren't getting huge returns.

[Taylor]

Is Arte still cheap?

[Jay]

Just now, Taylor said:

Is Arte still cheap?

You should answer your own question.

You thought it would be wise to pay Cole whatever it takes and Arte wouldn't do that.

 

[CanadianHalo]

8 minutes ago, Stradling said:

I always under or over value what it would cost to obtain a player in a trade.  Stroman has one year left, so to me it feels like a deal centered around Marsh would be too much.  People also feel like Adams is possibly a year away from breaking out as a prospect, but he might be the one to center a deal around.  In the long run we could regret it as he matures into a great prospect and very good major leaguer.  I'd prefer we found a way to get him with the guys we have already seen, guys like Thaiss (who I am higher on than most) Sandoval, and maybe another arm in low A ball.  No idea how realistic it is but it seems the last several years that guys with one year of control aren't getting huge returns.

I’m very hesitant to trade away Marsh and Adams. Both look like they could be legit major leaguers that we will end up regret trading away. 

But we’re in a bit of a tough spot with our need for pitching. The Mets are trying to find someone to dump Lowrie’s contract on. Stroman and Lowrie would cost 20 mill and are both FA’s after this season. 

Take on Lowrie’s money to lessen the blow prospect wise. We’re going to need to spend in order to protect our future

[halonatic13]

I can guarantee that Stroman will want to be an Angel next year either by free agency or a trade this year.  Dude loves Trout.  Yes, for that reason alone, he'd want to be near him.  Put it on the BOOOOAAAARRRRD!

[Lou]

4 minutes ago, Jay said:

You should answer your own question.

You thought it would be wise to pay Cole whatever it takes and Arte wouldn't do that.

 

that doesn't make Arte cheap, so the answer is no

[totdprods]

I will say too that if the Angels acquire someone like Stroman or Ray, even if they’re in their walk years I bet Eppler could throw some big money at them now and work an extension. 

Edited December 12, 2019 by totdprods

[Erstad Grit]

9 hours ago, Sean-Regan said:

Haven't seen anyone else report that, though. 

One would think if Indians traded lindor kluber would be easier to get.