Shin-Soo Choo Reaches Seven-Year Deal With Rangers

[ettin]

Out of curiosity, where are people getting salary per WAR values?

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/an-early-look-at-the-price-of-a-win-this-off-season/

 

The value is probably now closer to $6.5MM/WAR after Cano and Choo signed.

[Halofan]

Famous Quote:

 

" Never been much of a stat guy they build your hopes up in Jan, and Feb. then leave you setting at home in October."

 

Author: Beerman.... In his best Bob Costas impression...

Edited December 21, 2013 by Halofan

[Angelfan79]

They can have him, not bad player but his age will catch up to him!!

Edited December 21, 2013 by Angelfan79

[The Ghost of Bob Starr]

I don't think anyone in baseball is worth 7 years at any price anymore, unless the last name is Trout.    Teams just want to keep getting bit in the ass.

[Stradling]

Sadly it's the price you have to pay for talent Jeff.

[Inside Pitch]

Ranger fans are lit up and all over Dan Szymborski's twitter over his ZIPs projections for Choo, and the likelihood of his playing to his contract.

 

Funny to see someone other than Angels fans defending a signing for change.   https://twitter.com/DSzymborski

Edited December 21, 2013 by Inside Pitch

[Brent Maguire]

Has it not been said a million times that his japanese team wont post him? why do i keep reading these posts.

They've gone back and forth at least 5 times now.

I'm not believing anything that comes out of there until I actually see a direct quote from Tanaka or an official statement saying he is or isn't posted.

[Angels]

Some gems from 

 

Ranger fans are lit up and all over Dan Szymborski's twitter over his ZIPs projections for Choo, and the likelihood of his playing to his contract.

 

Funny to see someone other than Angels fans defending a signing for change.   https://twitter.com/DSzymborski

 

"In straight dollars, ZiPS evaluates Choo deal as 3rd worst in MLB history at time of signing, behind A-Rod 2, Howard, just ahead Werth."

 

"ZiPS has Choo at 3.1, 2.8, 2.5, 2.0, 1.5, 0.6, -0.2."

 

Ouch.

[Glen]

Well, ****.

[Inside Pitch]

Some gems from 

 

 

"In straight dollars, ZiPS evaluates Choo deal as 3rd worst in MLB history at time of signing, behind A-Rod 2, Howard, just ahead Werth."

 

"ZiPS has Choo at 3.1, 2.8, 2.5, 2.0, 1.5, 0.6, -0.2."

 

Ouch.

 

Yeah -- LOL, that one sent people over the edge.   

Tell you what I like.  In Calhoun, we basically have a Choo-lite.

Edited December 21, 2013 by Inside Pitch

[Inside Pitch]

Heyman's on MLB Network right now saying Tex has a great rapport with Boras. Apparently Daniels and Washington both flew out to Newport to meet with Choo before the winter meetings.

 

FWIW

 

The entire top of their order is made up of Boras clients.   Choo 130 mil, Andrus 120 mil, Beltre 80 mil, Fielder 214 mil...   

[sneaky_flute]

I don't have a problem with those projections because they're unfavorable. I have a problem with them because they're futile. Dan Szymborski likes to spit numbers out of a computer but a more intuitive approach would be to simply assess trends over the course of a few years. Anyone could look at a player's gradually declining numbers and think to himself, "That player might not be good next year." 

[Tank]

7/130

Wow

Lol

Wow

[Chuck]

It sucks that he went to an AL West team, but I'm not going to lose sleep over this like some of you.

 

You still have to play the games and after two seasons in a row in which the Angels won a paper championship heading into the season, I'm done with predictions and over optimism. I think the Angels as of right now have a solid team and if they add another arm like Garza or someone close to Vargas, they'll be REALLY good.

 

That said, it all boils down to the if the Angels get off to a good start. If they do, I believe they'll be fine and in a good spot to compete all season long. I think that's all we can ask for as fans and what we should look toward.

[Angel Oracle]

7/130

Wow

Lol

Wow

Think of this though, Hamilton is getting similar money for two less seasons.

[Docwaukee]

It sucks that he went to an AL West team, but I'm not going to lose sleep over this like some of you.

 

You still have to play the games and after two seasons in a row in which the Angels won a paper championship heading into the season, I'm done with predictions and over optimism. I think the Angels as of right now have a solid team and if they add another arm like Garza or someone close to Vargas, I'll be really satisfied.

 

I think if the Angels get off to a good start, they'll be fine and in a good spot to compete all season long. I think that's all we should look toward.

 

 

yah.  getting off to a good start next year would be great. 

[Angel Oracle]

They've gone back and forth at least 5 times now.

I'm not believing anything that comes out of there until I actually see a direct quote from Tanaka or an official statement saying he is or isn't posted.

And they are making an absolute mockery out of baseball in how it is being handled!

[Stradling]

Think of this though, Hamilton is getting similar money for two less seasons.

I see your point, but I also like the idea of being done with the contract two years sooner.

[NrM]

Think of this though, Hamilton is getting similar money for two less seasons.

 

Exactly. I don't think it's a horrible deal. This move makes the rangers lineup definitely more potent than the angels imo.

At the same time, the Angels have so many question marks(Hamitlon and Pujols), who knows how things will play out.

 

The fact that the rangers also have a nice farm system to go along with Profar, who could be a superstar, is scary. They're built to win now and in the future.

Edited December 22, 2013 by Poozy

[ukyah]

up until last year, hamilton had been the far better player. he tanked last year, it has happened before. we'll see how he plays, but i think he's going to have a big rebound season.

[Docwaukee]

And they are making an absolute mockery out of baseball in how it is being handled!

I think they are absolutely doing it on purpose.  It's a passive aggressive FU. 

 

I have no idea about the economics of Japanese baseball, but if they don't post him, they are likely to pay him around 7mil it sounds so the delta is around 27mil+ if they don't post him.  But they do have 2 more years of control so they could do it next year.  20mil is a lot to gamble on whether a guy stays healthy. 

 

I think they are gonna post him, but I think they are gonna do it at the last possible moment. 

[NrM]

up until last year, hamilton had been the far better player. he tanked last year, it has happened before. we'll see how he plays, but i think he's going to have a big rebound season.

 

Really dude? Just look at the numbers. They both bring different things of value to the table. Josh Hamilton had one fluke year and was definitely aided by playing in texas.

[rick99gtp]

He may be overrated, but he absolutely destroys Jered Weaver.

 

Corrected.  At least, the stats say so:

 

Choo has batted against Jered Weaver 34 times.  He is 14 for 31 (.452) with 6 doubles, 1 walk and 4 strikeouts.  (2 HBP).

 

CJ Wilson and Hector Santiago, both left-handers, have faced Choo 24 times.  Choo is 3 for 21 (.143) with 1 homerun, 1 walk, and 8 strikeouts.  (2 HBP by Wilson as well)

 

Choo's splits last year:

 

vs. Right:  .317/.457/.554/1.011

vs. Left:    .215/.347/.265/.612

 

All of that being said, I think the Rangers have a few right-handed hitters in their lineup to counter our lefties.  Interesting lineup.

Edited December 22, 2013 by rick99gtp

[NrM]

btw if you guys are really interested about projections, look at where Oliver has Pujols over the next 5 years.

 

I think he has him getting a total of 5 WAR over the next five years.

Edited December 22, 2013 by Poozy

[Brandon]

I see this signing gave you all something to Choo on.