Downs traded to Braves for RHP Cory Rasmus

[EDinTUSTIN]

In 6.2 IP he has given up 4 HR 3 walks and 6 K's for the Braves this season.

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/rasmuco02.shtml

Sounds like he'll fit right in

[Scott34]

Rasmus is a FA after this year? I'm not very well versed in how club control is determined, but I would have thought that a guy with 6.2 innings of major league ball would have multiple years of club control left.

 

6 year minor league free agent.

[kevinb]

Byrnes was fired on July 1, 2010 and Dipoto was named interim General Manager.^[1] On September 22, Kevin Towers was named the new Diamondbacks General Manager. Dipoto was offered the opportunity to remain with the Diamondbacks.^[2]

Oops well I guess I was wrong. My bad I just thought he was the Assistant

[nate]

6 year minor league free agent.

 

But if they put him on the active roster then he isn't a FA right?

[Scott34]

I stand corrected.  As long as he's on the 40 then he isn't eligible.

[Lifetime]

I think that's what has me bent...   

you guys really don't think Dipoto has been having discussions with teams for some time now? You really think that some new better deal would have shown up if they had waited a couple more days?

[Spirit]

[Thomas]

Today the Angels got a jump on the 2014 season acquiring RHP Cory Rasmus and a 1st round draft pick from the Atlanta Braves for LHP Scott Downs.

http://laangelsinsider.com/articles/angels-waive-white-flag-scott-downs-traded

 

I don't see any mention of the 1st round pick they got in the deal...

[Scott34]

Rasmus WAS a 1st round pick.

 

You can't trade picks like that.

[Lifetime]

First, you would have to classify what you think is a Downs type of player.   I could list every reliever he has ever shipped in a trade and you might come back at me with how many of them were pending FAs.  I could list pending FA relievers and then you might find issue with that and ask how many of them were making 5 mil a year.  I could list the guys who made decent change and you might ask me to find how many were pending FAs who made money and were 37 years old.   

If you google Billy Beane trades, there are a few sites that have them all listed in XLS format, if you're really interested.   But Beane has always used specialists and relievers in general to great effect in his trades.. 

When it's all said and done, it's not worth effort to be honest.   I just hope there is a plan in place.

you're the one who said a Downs like player so you can define it. I'd assume you would be referring to an older reliever with a comparable player profile value not just every pending FA reliever since that wouldn't be an accurate comparison. Again, you're the one who initiate this comparison and claimed we should look at how Beane had done with this type of trade. So, let's look then. 

[robblin17]

you guys really don't think Dipoto has been having discussions with teams for some time now? You really think that some new better deal would have shown up if they had waited a couple more days?

 

We don't know as fans.

 

Maybe. 

[austin724]

Let's be real here. The Angels were not going to get much in return for a 38 year old reliever.  Downs was not the future of this team.  

[Lifetime]

We don't know as fans.

 

Maybe. 

Of course we don't know. I wasn't implying that we do or even should.

[fan_since79]

Apparently the Angels "giveaway" has begun

LOL at this excerpt from USA Today:

 

"This was also the Angels' official notification that they are giving up for the season."

 

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2013/07/29/braves-angels-trade-scott-downs/2596023/

[stormngt]

Each move DiPoto makes the angels are actually getting progressively worse

 

I don't think anyone can fairly say if this is a bad move or not.  Downs was a FA.  He isn't helping us this year.  If we really need him we can always resign him in the fall.  Rasmus numbers do not seem to be that bad and until we see him perform we really can't call this a bad move.

 

Those who do  are just hate mongering.

[fan_since79]

So anyone who disagrees with the move is a hate monger.

 

That's quite a jump.

[SmallSampleSize]

you guys really don't think Dipoto has been having discussions with teams for some time now? You really think that some new better deal would have shown up if they had waited a couple more days?

 

I gotcha.  Call out other people for wondering how they have insider knowledge to criticize decisions...

 

...but criticizing other posters based on your assumptions of inside knowledge.

[xboom28x]

Is this seriously 8 pages already? It's not like DiPoto traded Kendrick for a career minor leaguer with an ERA over 6

[stormngt]

True, I've soured on Dipoto after this season and am now thinking next year is make or break for him. He really made the pitching(starters and pen) worse than it was before

How has he made the pen worse this year?  This year is light years ahead of last year.  I know that doesn't mean we were very good this year, but last year was a disaster.

[Lifetime]

I did no such thing. You are a champion at reading comprehension. 

[rageous]

I don't think anyone can fairly say if this is a bad move or not.  Downs was a FA.  He isn't helping us this year.  If we really need him we can always resign him in the fall.  Rasmus numbers do not seem to be that bad and until we see him perform we really can't call this a bad move.

 

Those who do  are just hate mongering.

Of course you can see how well Rasmus will perform.

There is something called statistics and they even keep those in minor leagues.

He's a career minor leaguer that has trouble throwing strikes and that has almost zero value.

He gave up 22 walks in 36 innings in AAA.

[stormngt]

No shit.  Exactly as I was thinking.

 

Lateral moves (at best) will get this team to the promised land.  Just you wait and see! 

 

INB4 White knight super fans converge.  Hide!

 

 

It is a lateral move where we trade a player who we control until October to a player we control for six year.  Hell I think that would be a great move.

[xboom28x]

And for those asking why didn't he package Aybar or Kendrick for a better return? Maybe teams looking for a lefty specialist aren't in the market for a SS or 2B with multiple years left on a 8M+ per year contract.

 

Just a guess.

[Lifetime]

How has he made the pen worse this year?  This year is light years ahead of last year.  I know that doesn't mean we were very good this year, but last year was a disaster.

How is this year's pen light years ahead of last year? 

[SmallSampleSize]

It is a lateral move where we trade a player who we control until October to a player we control for six year.  Hell I think that would be a great move.

 

 

I agree.

 

If there wasn't sufficient data to demonstrate what the likely performance is of said player with 6 years of control.

 

In a vacuum, of course you're right.

 

 

Also, the real point isn't what we could or couldn't have got for Downs on his own vs. Downs packaged with someone...but more so that a player like Rasmus could be had later if that was so integral to us getting better.  

 

I'd have liked to have seen more of a move to show the thought leadership behind where this team is heading...

 

Color me not impressed.  Not quite hating but not impressed to be sure.