Downs traded to Braves for RHP Cory Rasmus

[Angel Oracle]

Walden though only pitched 11 MLB innings after the 2012 ASB, hardly a high enough sample size to judge at that point. 

That being said, he has walked just 10 so far in 2013.   

 

Jepsen has been back from the DL for almost 2 months, and is still not being nearly consistent enough.

Past 16.1 innings = just under 4.50 ERA.   That is NOT setup material.

[SmallSampleSize]

F Pujols. The last thing this team needs is to make more poor decisions because of a horrible contract

 

 

According to MLBTR.com, Pujols has - in addition to his service after playing - an 11 year after-life provision in his contract as well.

 

This was never disclosed due to fears of some religious people being offended.

 

So it's not that bad of a deal if you think about 30 years+ of world-class service.

[Turd Ferguson]

According to MLBTR.com, Pujols has - in addition to his service after playing - an 11 year after-life provision in his contract as well.

 

This was never disclosed due to fears of some religious people being offended.

 

So it's not that bad of a deal if you think about 30 years+ of world-class service.

 

If the Angels eat the "after-life" portion of the contract, maybe we oculd trade the "during-life" portion of it?

[fatkook]

People were expecting Verlader for Downs.

the world is not enough

[SoWhat]

11 pages lol

[xboom28x]

Walden though only pitched 11 MLB innings after the 2012 ASB, hardly a high enough sample size to judge at that point. 

That being said, he has walked just 10 so far in 2013.   

 

Jepsen has been back from the DL for almost 2 months, and is still not being nearly consistent enough.

Past 16.1 innings = just under 4.50 ERA.   That is NOT setup material.

 

Walden though only pitched 11 MLB innings after the 2012 ASB, hardly a high enough sample size to judge at that point. 

That being said, he has walked just 10 so far in 2013.   

 

Jepsen has been back from the DL for almost 2 months, and is still not being nearly consistent enough.

Past 16.1 innings = just under 4.50 ERA.   That is NOT setup material.

So Walden's 11 MLB innings is hardly a high enough sample size, yet Jepsen's 16.1 innings is?

 

Convenient

[Mark68]

And hitters who swing at everything

To be fair, hitters who swing at everything has been our MO for a while.

[xboom28x]

Walden though only pitched 11 MLB innings after the 2012 ASB, hardly a high enough sample size to judge at that point. 

That being said, he has walked just 10 so far in 2013.   

 

Jepsen has been back from the DL for almost 2 months, and is still not being nearly consistent enough.

Past 16.1 innings = just under 4.50 ERA.   That is NOT setup material.

And a 3.13 ERA in 23 IP since his injury is a lot closer to setup material than what your smaller sample size makes it out to be.

[Mark68]

You're wrong. Nothing Boston traded last year was comparable to those two contracts which both have full no trade clauses to go along with their monster price tag. Those two are not tradeable. 

Plus, who is stupid enough to take those contracts off our hands? The Dodgers can't/don't need to now.

[m0nkey]

I'm just glad Downs is gone so he can't blow any more close games with 1 pitch.

Downs had 18 holds with 3 blown saves

[Mark68]

At first I was like

 

 

 

And then I was like

 

So what kind of file is a .png anyway?

[SmallSampleSize]

11 pages lol

 

 

This is the equivalent of an Angels playoff game this year. 

 

Enjoy it! 

 

The season has devolved into:

 

1)  Celebrating other teams making bad trades (real or otherwise)

2)  Celebrating our questionable B-level trades

 

As for our on-field celebrations this year?

 

*crickets*

[ELEVEN]

Is the After-Life clause based on reachable incentives?

[SmallSampleSize]

So what kind of file is a .png anyway?

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_Network_Graphics

 

In a nutshell for the non-technical side of you, it was designed to replace GIF and TIFF files and most importantly:

 

-  No image data is lost when saving or viewing the image (lossless) - so yeah, get your porn images in PNG from now on so your grandkids can see your stash in the most vivid detail

 

- Software developers technically need to pay royalties and fees to Unisys if their app supports reading or writing of GIF or LZW TIFF images

 

BTW, I'm a bit surprised you've not seen it before since it's the most commonly used image file format on the web.

[Mark68]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_Network_Graphics

 

In a nutshell for the non-technical side of you, it was designed to replace GIF and TIFF files and most importantly:

 

-  No image data is lost when saving or viewing the image (lossless) - so yeah, get your porn images in PNG from now on so your grandkids can see your stash in the most vivid detail

 

- Software developers technically need to pay royalties and fees to Unisys if their app supports reading or writing of GIF or LZW TIFF images

No worries then. Don't even have any kids, so not worried about grandkids getting into my porn stash.

 

Besides, if I had grandkids, they'd probably be able to experience it in virtual reality.

[SmallSampleSize]

No worries then. Don't even have any kids, so not worried about grandkids getting into my porn stash.

 

Besides, if I had grandkids, they'd probably be able to experience it in virtual reality.

 

 

If you've not heard about this yet (I'm guessing no ), you will.

 

Not exactly for the reasons you mentioned, but I'm sure that will be capitalized too.

 

Had the fortune of trying one this year. 

 

Eff responsibilities once I get one.

 

Edit:  Never noticed they got 10 times what they were asking for as now they have a lot of private funding too.  Pretty cool to see ideas like this every day get going with crowdfunding - something impossible 10 years ago.

[ettin]

Sorry, this team has pissed away a lot of its advantages of late.   Say what you will about the Braves -- they have been hurting for a lefty in the pen for a while.  The return on Downs isn't much different than it would have been had they DFA'd him and found someone willing to move a non-spect for him, if you're honest you'll admit that..   I likely am a bit frustrated, in large part because I want to buy into the idea that ours is a smart front office and really outside of some well stated sales pitches to fans -- there isn't much we can point to as proof that it is.

 

Yes it isn't that much different from what may have been obtained by DFA'ing Downs, but at least Dipoto got to pick a target this way and Rasmus may never amount to anything but I believe he was selected because the Angels front office believes they can work with and mold Cory into a serviceable middle reliever whether it is through a mechanical change, secondary pitch development, etc.

 

I'm surprised you'd question my honesty by the way, I feel I've always been as forthright and honest on this board especially with you.

 

I'll continue to support this GM until he really proves me wrong. I think some of the best years are yet to come under Dipoto's guidance. Feel free to save the thread and I'll eat crow if I'm wrong.

 

[Inside Pitch]

Yes it isn't that much different from what may have been obtained by DFA'ing Downs, but at least Dipoto got to pick a target this way and Rasmus may never amount to anything but I believe he was selected because the Angels front office believes they can work with and mold Cory into a serviceable middle reliever whether it is through a mechanical change, secondary pitch development, etc.

 

I'm surprised you'd question my honesty by the way, I feel I've always been as forthright and honest on this board especially with you.

 

I'll continue to support this GM until he really proves me wrong. I think some of the best years are yet to come under Dipoto's guidance. Feel free to save the thread and I'll eat crow if I'm wrong.

 

 

 

Wasn't questioning your honesty...  The thought never entered my mind, simply a figure of speech.

[ettin]

Wasn't questioning your honesty...  The thought never entered my mind, simply a figure of speech.

 

Wow you must really be irked to still be posting on the 12th page of this thread....

 

Then again what does that say about me?

[AngelsAndRamsFan]

Scott Downs

Cameron offers his take on the Downs trade as well, noting that Downs shouldn't face righties anymore but can still provide a boost in the playoffs against tough lefties like Joey Votto and Adrian Gonzalez. The Angels didn't get much back in return, in Cameron's mind, as most organizations have plenty of relief prospects who can throw 93 mph and miss bats with questionable command. However, getting "something just north of nothing" was better than simply letting Downs leave at season's end.

Downs "[has] a place in any modern day bullpen," given his dominance over lefties, writes Matt Eddy of Baseball America. Eddy provides a scouting report on Rasmus, whose biggest weakness is his control. Eddy points out that Rasmus is capable of retiring both lefties and righties if he can reign in the walks.

One scout told Danny Knobler of CBS Sports that Downs has lost the "turbo-sink" that prompted Anaheim to sign him to a three-year, $15MM contract but wondered if joining a playoff contender will revitalize the 37-year-old lefty.

The Braves got Downs "for virtually nothing" writes Law (ESPN Insider required). Rasmus profiles as a generic right-handed reliever whose main value is that he's cost-controlled. Rasmus' high fly-ball rates will play better in Angel Stadium and with Anaheim's defense though, Law adds.

[Inside Pitch]

Wow you must really be irked to still be posting on the 12th page of this thread....

 

Then again what does that say about me?

 

 

Nah I'm over it.   Didn't even cover the topic but, I didn't want you thinking I was questioning your integrity in any capacity.  AJ summed my feelings best, the trade itself is whatever, doing it on the 29th just seems odd.

 

More happy about Kole Calhoun getting playing time.   Hopefully he gets enough at bats that the team get's a feel for what they have in him.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

Oh yeah, holding on to Downs really helps the team. Dipoto never should have trade him.

 

And if he hadn't made a move, he would have been ripped for letting Downs leave and getting nothing in return. Amazing how people are already declaring us the loser of the deal and Rasmus hasn't gotten off the plane in Salt Lake yet.

 

Wasn't it just a couple of days ago that people were saying that Downs' worth had really dropped because of a couple of bad outings? Now, suddenly he is an elite reliever who we should have gotten more for.

[disarcina]

Scott Downs goes to a contender........a team that will make the playoffs -- I wonder if he makes the playoff roster..........he's been very hittable lately.

 

this guy we got from Atlanta.......hope he can come up in September and maybe start a game or three......he might be one of the rotation guys next year or a 4-A guy at SLC who comes up for spot starts........that's pretty much where we're at, folks.......

[disarcina]

I like this move.........we needed to move Downs.........and he had some value --- likely dropped the past month.........but this move makes sense.........

[tennischmp]

Scott Downs goes to a contender........a team that will make the playoffs -- I wonder if he makes the playoff roster..........he's been very hittable lately.

 

Lol at hittable lately. He's been nails except for that last appearance.