Who will be our big acquisition?

[eligrba]

8 hours ago, Angelsjunky said:

I almost want to see Trump re-elected:

I say this as someone who is not affiliated with any political party, I'm not sure our representative democracy could handle it.  I know...no political comments.

 

I will go to my corner.

[mmc]

I’m inclined to think it’s Gausman

 

[Stradling]

Do you think Gausman gets 4 years?

[Cosmo_Kramer]

1 hour ago, Stradling said:

Do you think Gausman gets 4 years?

Matz got 4 years so Gausman surely will

[Angels_Make_Me_Drink]

My guess is Gausman. If not him, then I think Mad Max. I think Perry is very smart and while Mad Max is phenomenal, there is a bit of risk signing a 37 yer old to a TOR type of contract. Plays it safe with Gausman because he already gambled on Thor. 

[IheartLA]

People that think we have a chance of getting Scherzer need to get back to reality before all the other reasonable possible targets are gone 

[Warfarin]

I'd stay away from Gausman on a 5 year deal.  Gausman had a great year, but I suspect this is a contract that a team will greatly regret by year 2 or maybe 3 at most.  Look at Rendon - everyone was stoked that we signed him, and now two years into it, there are a number who are starting to count the years down now, just as we did with Pujols and now Upton.

My preference is Scherzer, simply because even if he tanks, 3 years is much less onerous than 5 years.

All that said, I don't think we'll sign any of them, but rather, I think Minasian will spread the money around as he did last year, opting to attempt to fill multiple holes at once.

While Cobb is in discussions with SF, maybe we still have a shot and can retain him on a 2/20 contract.

Think of it this way, too - if we sign Gausman, the likelihood that we'll re-sign Syndergaard to a significant deal if he bounces back are probably slim to none.  In truth, I'm hoping Syndergaard does bounce back and that he would have enjoyed his time here enough that he'd consider signing a long-term deal, so that our rotation is headlined by Ohtani and Syndergaard for a number of years.

A core of Ohtani, Syndergaard, Sandoval, Suarez, Canning, and soon Detmers, Bachman, maybe Bush, etc - that'd give us a combination of (expensive) star power at the top and a lot of good, young talent in the middle/bottom.

[tdawg87]

The thing I like about Gausman is his FIP is a good indicator of future success. 

I agree 5 years is too much, but the way I see FA signings is you're always going to regret them at a certain point. Most of them don't work out well. But you're giving them an extra couple years (or more) so you can get the best of them for 3-4 years. 

I think Gausman fits in nicely as a number 3 guy. Having Sandoval and Suarez plus maybe Barria at the back of the rotation is just...muah. That leaves Canning as the number 7 guy, and I think that's pretty neat.

[Stradling]

Anyone want to update their prediction?

[CanadianHalo]

I think it ends up being Syndergaard

[Stradling]

8 minutes ago, CanadianHalo said:

I think it ends up being Syndergaard

Based on how you think he will perform or based on who else we will sign?

[CanadianHalo]

Just now, Stradling said:

Based on how you think he will perform or based on who else we will sign?

I know quiet is good BUT I’m starting to get this nervous feeling that we might actually end up missing out on these pitchers when the bullets start to fly right away. 
 

I REALLY hope I’m wrong. I completely checked out for the first time since I can remember during the season this year. Didn’t even check box scores the last month or two.

[failos]

Phil Nevin

[CanadianHalo]

20 hours ago, CanadianHalo said:

I know quiet is good BUT I’m starting to get this nervous feeling that we might actually end up missing out on these pitchers when the bullets start to fly right away. 

Yep

[HeavenlyHalos]

Looking like Thor at this point. Still time to hopefully get an "I agree" later though.

[Cosmo_Kramer]

Michael Lorenzen

[Lazorko Saves]

Everyone needs to get on the Carlos Rodon bandwagon with me.

Upside is a young ace who gives us a legit 1-2 punch (with Ohtani) you need in playoff series starting those games 1/2 + games 5/6. 

Yeah yeah, downside is he spends the next three years on the DL.  I know.

Embrace the volatility.  High risk/high reward is our only hope.

[Mark68]

1 minute ago, Lazorko Saves said:

Everyone needs to get on the Carlos Rodon bandwagon with me.

Upside is a young ace who gives us a legit 1-2 punch (with Ohtani) you need in playoff series starting those games 1/2 + games 5/6. 

Yeah yeah, downside is he spends the next three years on the DL.  I know.

Embrace the volatility.  High risk/high reward is our only hope.

Since we'll only sign him to a one-year contract, I approve. 

[rafibomb]

Gausman

Scherzer

Ray

Stroman

[Angelsjunky]

Synderloupenzen. Or Loupengaardzen? 

[failos]

3 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

Synderloupenzen. Or Loupengaardzen? 

Here’s a better one: 5.09 ERA

[Hubs]

I just love "the sky is falling" folks. 

Like one minute, the Angels are being aggressive and are on track to win the offseason, and then a few big names sign elsewhere and Arte sucks. The Angels had the 7th largest payroll in 2021, I expect them to be right there again in 2022.

If the offseason ends up being say: Syndergaard, Loup, Lorenzen, Iglesias, Story, and Castillo or Sonny Gray, would you all be upset?

 

[Blarg]

On 11/22/2021 at 8:58 PM, Dtwncbad said:

If we are all going to accept anything, then let’s stick to actual, indisputable facts.

Indisputable fact #1: You have no idea what money is “available” for the Angels to spend this year.

Indisputable.

[Turd Ferguson]

1 hour ago, Hubs said:

I just love "the sky is falling" folks. 

Like one minute, the Angels are being aggressive and are on track to win the offseason, and then a few big names sign elsewhere and Arte sucks. The Angels had the 7th largest payroll in 2021, I expect them to be right there again in 2022.

If the offseason ends up being say: Syndergaard, Loup, Lorenzen, Iglesias, Story, and Castillo or Sonny Gray, would you all be upset?

 

I think the sky fell years ago. Every offseason, I have a similar approach to you -- don't judge the offseason too early, let the FO do its thing. And every season I see us rolling in with the same piecemealed rotation.

I hope I'm wrong, but this just looks like more of the same.

[HeavenlyHalos]

2 hours ago, Hubs said:

I just love "the sky is falling" folks. 

Like one minute, the Angels are being aggressive and are on track to win the offseason, and then a few big names sign elsewhere and Arte sucks. The Angels had the 7th largest payroll in 2021, I expect them to be right there again in 2022.

If the offseason ends up being say: Syndergaard, Loup, Lorenzen, Iglesias, Story, and Castillo or Sonny Gray, would you all be upset?

 

That is a helluva lot of ifs and it depends what we give up for Castillo and/or Gray.