Who will be our big acquisition?

[Taylor]

6 hours ago, m0nkey said:

Adding a healthy Rendon fully recovered from surgery will act as a big acquisition. Let’s get spring training going already!

Trout too. Two automatic big splashes.

[wopphil]

13 hours ago, bloodbrother said:

Trevor Story

I was actually thinking this too. I think if you could acquire Story and someone like Jon Gray for the same cost as Scherzer, that might be the better way to go. 

[Warfarin]

58 minutes ago, Junkballer said:

My guess is that Syndergaard is the biggest name acquisition.  I just don't see Minasian going down to the wire on the bigger name SP's and Iglesias.  The potential for ending up with the dregs is too high to play the waiting game with them.  They will be in on them but when he sees the market for mid-range arms start to shrink further, he will get serious about signing someone along the lines of a Jon Gray, a #3 with #2 potential, and pivot to the BP.  I also don't think they'll sign Raisel because his market will be hot and his representation may let bidding go down to the wire.  At some point, knowing that they aren't going to commit to an all out bidding war for the most sought after closer available, they will have to make a decision to cut bait and go after a second tier closer or closer by committee approach.  Loup allows for that being that they can go after a Graveman, or, go after two late innings guys who want to make the jump to closer and let competition settle the closer role among the three.  

Lastly, I don't think we see any top prospects included in a trade at this juncture.  I get the sense that Minasian knows that there will be opportunity to get better trade value in-season than preseason, especially with the lockout uncertainty, and that he wants to have the prospect capital to be in that game as it unfolds.  

These are my thoughts as well.

I remember last offseason, we discussed all the big names out there, but our best acquisitions ended up being Raisel Iglesias (who we acquired for Noe Ramirez and paid him ~$8mil) and Cobb (who we acquired for Jones and paid ~3mil).  In terms of fWAR, they were 2 of our 3 best pitchers.

It does go to show you that while there are a lot of "big names" out there, savvy GMs can find bargains via trades or signings who end up performing well.

I suspect Syndergaard was the big name, and instead we'll largely see a lot of under-the-radar type moves or mid-tier signings/acquisitions, with the hopes that a chunk of them turn out like the Cobb/Iglesias acquisitions did.

[angelsnationtalk]

Well, last year was the Joe Maddon reunion tour (Fowler, Slegers, blah blah blah)

It seems like so far we're on the Minasian reunion tour.... Syndergaard, Loup.... So does that mean Stroman is next? All Toronto arms. 

But damn, we need to solid Ace. PLEASE get Scherzer now. Just remember that Trout has been courting him. The front office wouldn't let him do that if they weren't serious. 

[Warfarin]

7 minutes ago, angelsnationtalk said:

Well, last year was the Joe Maddon reunion tour (Fowler, Slegers, blah blah blah)

It seems like so far we're on the Minasian reunion tour.... Syndergaard, Loup.... So does that mean Stroman is next? All Toronto arms. 

But damn, we need to solid Ace. PLEASE get Scherzer now. Just remember that Trout has been courting him. The front office wouldn't let him do that if they weren't serious. 

The FO can’t control what Trout says or does in that regard.  They can’t tell him to NOT talk to Scherzer. 

[Dtwncbad]

1 hour ago, Junkballer said:

  I just don't see Minasian

Respectfully, I am not sure any of us has enough history with Minasian to accurately speculate what exactly he will or will not do.

Part of my personal excitement right now is exactly this.  What could this guy do that could surprise me?

[Angelsjunky]

14 hours ago, Inside Pitch said:

No idea who the big signing will be or if there will even be one but they better not be done.  They have added a couple name brands but really haven't moved the needle.   

As it stands now, Syndergaard takes Cobb's spot, sure he's potentially an upgrade but 90+ innings of sub 4.00 ERA had some value.  Loup has been pretty amazing of late but he is cancelled out by potentially losing Iglesias.  

Hopefully they actually start ADDING to the team before they start yapping about being done.

 

Obligatory--and first of Hot Stove season: Its early.

13 hours ago, Taylor said:

He's now been mentioned, so it won't be him.

I'd almost like to see the Angels sign Pujols, in a similar way that I almost want to see Trump re-elected: for the rather entertaining shitstorms that would occur. Almost.

[angelsnationtalk]

Just now, Dtwncbad said:

Respectfully, I am not sure any of us has enough history with Minasian to accurately speculate what exactly he will or will not do.

Part of my personal excitement right now is exactly this.  What could this guy do that could surprise me?

So far, I've liked most of the players he has brought in. Cobb, Syndergaard, Loup, Iglesias (l liked both), and the 2021 draft. 

Things already seem a bit different with him. Syndergaard praised him for him pitching knowledge. So far, I trust him and i'm excited to see what he can really do. Yes I know, take it with a grain of salt too. 

[Mark68]

We've already made our Big Acquisition.

 

 

 

 

 

 

It was Tyler Wade.

[Blarg]

15 hours ago, Dtwncbad said:

If we are all going to accept anything, then let’s stick to actual, indisputable facts.

Indisputable fact #1: You have no idea what money is “available” for the Angels to spend this year.

If their target was Scherzer they would have tendered an offer before Syndergaard. But go ahead and keep thinking they are going to blow through the cap for a 37 year old pitcher that couldn't lift his arm the last two games of the playoffs. 

[Pancake Bear]

16 minutes ago, Blarg said:

If their target was Scherzer they would have tendered an offer before Syndergaard. But go ahead and keep thinking they are going to blow through the cap for a 37 year old pitcher that couldn't lift his arm the last two games of the playoffs. 

Maybe stop pretending you know what they're going to do. You haven't the faintest idea. 

[Blarg]

 

[Taylor]

Blarg likes to talk confidently even when he has no idea what he's talking about.

 

 

In this case though, I agree with him.

[totdprods]

57 minutes ago, Blarg said:

If their target was Scherzer they would have tendered an offer before Syndergaard. But go ahead and keep thinking they are going to blow through the cap for a 37 year old pitcher that couldn't lift his arm the last two games of the playoffs. 

*recalls red flags of Wells, Pujols, Hamilton, Allen, Harvey, Lincecum, et al*

Max Scherzer, come on down!

[Dtwncbad]

1 hour ago, Blarg said:

If their target was Scherzer they would have tendered an offer before Syndergaard. But go ahead and keep thinking they are going to blow through the cap for a 37 year old pitcher that couldn't lift his arm the last two games of the playoffs. 

Funny.  If Scherzer was merely “a 37 year old that couldn’t lift his arm” then he would not cost an amount that would bust a budget.

If you think the amount it takes to sign him is actually a budget buster, then you certainly don’t believe he is just some old hurt guy.

So which is it?  Is he old and hurt (and therefore cheap), or is he super expensive (and therefore not a shell of himself)?

Because you would have to believe Minasian is an absolute idiot to pay “ace in their prime” price for a “hurt 37 year old.”

[Torridd]

Stroman.

[Dtwncbad]

4 minutes ago, Torridd said:

Stroman.

At his height he should be called Loman.

[HanfordGuy]

2 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

At his height he should be called Loman.

[HanfordGuy]

11 minutes ago, Torridd said:

Stroman.

We have Billy Squier remake this song and call it “the Stro” and play it every time Stroman takes the mound for the Angels.

 

[Blarg]

1 hour ago, Taylor said:

Blarg likes to talk confidently even when he has no idea what he's talking about.

 

 

In this case though, I agree with him.

 

[Blarg]

42 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

Funny.  If Scherzer was merely “a 37 year old that couldn’t lift his arm” then he would not cost an amount that would bust a budget.

If you think the amount it takes to sign him is actually a budget buster, then you certainly don’t believe he is just some old hurt guy.

So which is it?  Is he old and hurt (and therefore cheap), or is he super expensive (and therefore not a shell of himself)?

Because you would have to believe Minasian is an absolute idiot to pay “ace in their prime” price for a “hurt 37 year old.”

I think the market is in just as much denial as you are and someone with break the $30 million year baseline. I don't want the Angels to be his retirement fund for 3 years. 

[OldAndInTheWay]

16 minutes ago, Blarg said:

I think the market is in just as much denial as you are and someone with break the $30 million year baseline. I don't want the Angels to be his retirement fund for 3 years. 

Sign Scherzer and enjoy the ride.  It's not our money... and just like Arte, none of us is getting any younger

[failos]

I’ll be pleased if it’s Raisel 

[greginpsca]

I don't think Scherzer is realistic for the Angels. The next SP they get will more than likely come in a trade. Gray, Marquez, Means?  Someone in that tier. That would allow them to go after Iglesias. I don't think  Arte will let the budget go anywhere near the tax, but i could see him raise it from $180 to $185ish so we could maybe add another reliever and a catcher.

[bloodbrother]

10 hours ago, wopphil said:

I was actually thinking this too. I think if you could acquire Story and someone like Jon Gray for the same cost as Scherzer, that might be the better way to go. 

I just don't see Scherzer leaving the Dodgers and the reports of the Angels wanting shorter term deals for SP would indicate that guys like Ray/Stroman/Gausman aren't options. I think Syndergaard was their big SP signing and then they'll sign a mid tier option like Gray or Cobb or go the vet route with Kluber/Greinke