Angels sign Julio Teheran (1 year, $9 million)

[Lou]

1 minute ago, Inside Pitch said:

Whoaaaaa....  He breached kinds of etiquette and went right to the Triple Dog Dare!!!!!

but the bell rang!

[hangin n wangin]

3 minutes ago, Pancake Bear said:

 

 

 

[Lou]

Eppler loved bartering like an Arab trader .... and was twice as shrewd.

[Inside Pitch]

It's almost marathon time....   Such a great flick.

[ukyah]

57 minutes ago, Pancake Bear said:

 

 

 

 

[ukyah]

i love talking in gifs. i can psychically feel my teen self punching my now self in the face.

[Tank]

8 hours ago, ettin said:

@halothunder

@lifetime

Shall I go on?

Talk about opposite ends of the word use spectrum...

[ten ocho recon scout]

1 hour ago, Inside Pitch said:

It's almost marathon time....   Such a great flick.

Just had dinner w the guys at work for Christmas (last night were all together before Christmas)

Had it at a Chinese restaurant. Actually tried to order duck, just to take a picture with it, but they said it would take too long.

Feel totally robbed.

[Tank]

4 minutes ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Just had dinner w the guys at work for Christmas (last night were all together before Christmas)

Had it at a Chinese restaurant. Actually tried to order duck, just to take a picture with it, but they said it would take too long.

Feel totally robbed.

Did you at least get the waiters to sing to you?

[Docwaukee]

21 minutes ago, Tank said:

Did you at least get the waiters to sing to you?

SING SOMETHING ELSE!

[DMVol]

11 hours ago, tdawg87 said:

....One thing I will say is he makes Keuchel a bit redundant. Ryu should be the main target now.

Better upside (Ryu) vs more of an innings eater like Teheran (Keuchel)....I'd take Keuchel just because my patience has worn a little thin and I'd like as much certainty as possible...Hope we win a lot of 6-5 games, I guess....

[GregAlso]

11 hours ago, Tank said:

Did you at least get the waiters to sing to you?

Deck the Halls! 

[Tank]

7 minutes ago, GregAlso said:

Deck the Halls! 

with boughs of horry.

[tdawg87]

24 minutes ago, Tank said:

with boughs of horry.

[Lou]

24 minutes ago, Tank said:

with boughs of horry.

[Lou]

awww, f*#" you

[Lou]

literally 2 seconds

[Lou]

everyone should like mine instead of tdawg's 

[totdprods]

I'd imagine Teheran probably rules the Angels out on guys like Archer,  Ray, Stroman, Quintana, and DeSclafani. Trade rentals who would only be here one year. 

Feasible that they could still trade for one of those guys but it would feel pretty redundant. If you're trading anyone now, make it for someone with high-impact (none of those are) or club control, like Gray or Boyd, or someone who costs no-name prospects by way of salary dump, like Price or Samardzija.

[SlappyUtilityMIF]

15 hours ago, ukyah said:

as far as the meat of the post, you don't know bo diddley about some made up each roster spot has a specific dollar value 

This is basically called the Gini Coefficient it's the spreading of income distribution across a large group of people in this case Roster Building or Roster Management. 

There is no reason to ever track AAV if you are not building a roster this way if you are also concerned about a salary threshold, salary cap, or budget. You can actually use WAR as your higher WAR players and your higher AAV coincides within the roster. 

As the players coming up gain experience and get better their WAR usually grows and also their wages increase by Arbitration or salary = AAV.

We arent exactly speaking of building a roster as it is called by the name of "Stars and Scrubs" theory. Although mid 2000 Yankees rosters were built on this premise example Jacoby Ellsbury star vs scrub Kelly Johnson.

In the end you would like to have a balanced roster with an influx of young "youth" players who have upside and can put up #'s quickly who in the end replace the older/aging players who have basically topped out at their WAR value vs AAV. While adding a star player above a 5 WAR player from time to time in this instance Rendon (6.5 WAR). You deduct Cozarts AAV (-WAR) from the infield while increasing it with Rendon's WAR and increased AAV of approx 20M within the infield or AAV of 32M approx. While having youthful players whose WAR should grow (Fletcher and Rengifo who have a lower AAV today. While also considering increases in WAR from Simba who was hurt and had a down season last year.

Same reason within the outfield. Upton should be healthier this season and he should maintain an avg WAR to AAV. Kole's value WAR decreased as his AAV increased as he was an imperfect player generating defense, and his power #'s from last year. But, the bump comes from the thought that if you insert Adell whose WAR will increase as he grows in experience and his AAV increases along the way. You are basically paying for youthful and star athletic ability as your roster churns.

This is actually spoken here in depth regarding the use of WAR and AAV in here maybe unknowingly by some of the posters here totdprods uses it quite a bit when we are talking AAV value = WAR output. And our thoughts of a threshold or budget that Arte will or wont go over.

It's the base and backbone of this entire fan page! We are all fans of the Halos..The thought of Arte's budget vs The Roster vs the farm system!

[Lou]

[SlappyUtilityMIF]

22 minutes ago, SlappyUtilityMIF said:

This is basically called the Gini Coefficient it's the spreading of income distribution across a large group of people in this case Roster Building or Roster Management. 

There is no reason to ever track AAV if you are not building a roster this way if you are also concerned about a salary threshold, salary cap, or budget. You can actually use WAR as your higher WAR players and your higher AAV coincides within the roster. 

As the players coming up gain experience and get better their WAR usually grows and also their wages increase by Arbitration or salary = AAV.

We arent exactly speaking of building a roster as it is called by the name of "Stars and Scrubs" theory. Although mid 2000 Yankees rosters were built on this premise example Jacoby Ellsbury star vs scrub Kelly Johnson.

In the end you would like to have a balanced roster with an influx of young "youth" players who have upside and can put up #'s quickly who in the end replace the older/aging players who have basically topped out at their WAR value vs AAV. While adding a star player above a 5 WAR player from time to time in this instance Rendon (6.5 WAR). You deduct Cozarts AAV (-WAR) from the infield while increasing it with Rendon's WAR and increased AAV of approx 20M within the infield or AAV of 32M approx. While having youthful players whose WAR should grow (Fletcher and Rengifo who have a lower AAV today. While also considering increases in WAR from Simba who was hurt and had a down season last year.

Same reason within the outfield. Upton should be healthier this season and he should maintain an avg WAR to AAV. Kole's value WAR decreased as his AAV increased as he was an imperfect player generating defense, and his power #'s from last year. But, the bump comes from the thought that if you insert Adell whose WAR will increase as he grows in experience and his AAV increases along the way. You are basically paying for youthful and star athletic ability as your roster churns.

This is actually spoken here in depth regarding the use of WAR and AAV in here maybe unknowingly by some of the posters here totdprods uses it quite a bit when we are talking AAV value = WAR output. And our thoughts of a threshold or budget that Arte will or wont go over.

It's the base and backbone of this entire fan page! We are all fans of the Halos..The thought of Arte's budget vs The Roster vs the farm system!

Which was why we were hot after Cole and Strasburg higher WAR players within that area of the roster than what we had which would had also cost a higher AAV. But, you will pay for that if it gets you a 6+ WAR player across the 10 years of the contract you are in hope of at least gaining a 50+ WAR = Star Player within the life of the contract.

My example of 

9M for Cahill

And

11M for Harvey 

= 20M. Now we are attempting to gain a combined 4-6 WAR out of those spots of the roster combined at a savings of 15-16M AAV. Vs Cole or Strasburg.

Which is why Eppler goes for Clean peanuts in the bullpen as it's a smaller WAR position in value of AAV.

[SlappyUtilityMIF]

5 minutes ago, Lou said:

Guess, they didnt teach that at UCLA?

[tdawg87]

1 hour ago, Lou said:

Angelswin shows its conservative bias once again.

[Roy Hobbs]

4 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

Angelswin shows its conservative bias once again.

I think it's more an East coast vs West coast bias.