Morosi: Angels among four "leading contenders" for Zack Wheeler

[eaterfan]

47 minutes ago, tchula said:

I seriously doubt we'll lose a pick if we sign Cole.  I have a feeling the Astros won't be picking in the next three rounds of the MLB draft for at least 2 if not 3 years. 

I don't think that's how this works anymore. In the old system the other team got the pick, now it's just one team loses and a compensatory pick is given to the other team. Angels lose their pick whether or not the Astros draft.

[Mark PT]

5 hours ago, tchula said:

I seriously doubt we'll lose a pick if we sign Cole.  I have a feeling the Astros won't be picking in the next three rounds of the MLB draft for at least 2 if not 3 years. 

That's a good question, if we do sign Cole and Houston loses picks, do we keep those picks?

[totdprods]

Just now, Mark PT said:

That's a good question, if we do sign Cole and Houston loses picks, do we keep those picks?

I doubt it. This is about punishing the Astros, not rewarding the Angels. I imagine those picks would just disappear. 

[Mark68]

 

[Lou]

1 hour ago, Mark PT said:

That's a good question, if we do sign Cole and Houston loses picks, do we keep those picks?

they'd go to the Yankees

[ten ocho recon scout]

1 hour ago, Lou said:

they'd go to the Yankees

Astros would pay off MLB to make sure Dipoto got them. 

The other teams would protest, until they realized it wouldnt hurt them in any way.

[Mark68]

I hope this isn't like the Angels were a "leading contender" for Grandal...

[Angel Oracle]

55 minutes ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Astros would pay off MLB to make sure Dipoto got them. 

The other teams would protest, until they realized it wouldnt hurt them in any way.

Yep, Dumbpoto would trade them all within two years anyway, for some nearly washed up relievers like Pestano.

[ukyah]

10 hours ago, tchula said:

I seriously doubt we'll lose a pick if we sign Cole.  I have a feeling the Astros won't be picking in the next three rounds of the MLB draft for at least 2 if not 3 years. 

one thing doesn't have to do with the other. the angels will lose their 2nd round pick if they sign cole. it doesn't go to the astros, it just goes away.

[mmc]

According to IB, who is pretty well connected, us and the Sox are the teams going all in on him.  Hopefully this gets done soon.

[tdawg87]

incarcerated Bob?

YES

[CanadianHalo]

Anything IB ever tweets should be taken with a MASSIVE grain of salt 

[mmc]

 

[Claude]

5 hours ago, mymerlincat said:

According to IB, who is pretty well connected, us and the Sox are the teams going all in on him.  Hopefully this gets done soon.

I always felt that we do better as a mystery team.

[ten ocho recon scout]

On 11/21/2019 at 2:42 PM, Angel Oracle said:

Yep, Dumbpoto would trade them all within two years anyway, for some nearly washed up relievers like Pestano.

He would get 2 draft picks, and trade them for each other at some point.

[Chuck]

1 hour ago, Calzone 2 said:

I always felt that we do better as a mystery team.

Except that time with Ohtani when we made the short list of 6 known teams and he chose us!

[Chuck]

I mean, if the money is close who wants to play half of their games and/or move to the Southside of Chicago instead of So. Cal?

Also, would you rather play with Trout, Pujols and Ohtani or Moncada, Abreu and Anderson?

[Docwaukee]

I'm starting to think that the main choice was between Wheeler and Grandal.  Similar AAV.  Similar number of years although Wheeler likely to get 1 more.  

If I had to choose between Cole, Wheeler and a bargain at C or Cole, Grandal and a bargain 2nd starter, I choose the former.  

[zenmaster]

I have a feeling the white sox are going to end up with him. They have a lot of cash, are opening up their wallets, and not afraid to overspend. A dangerous combo.

[Docwaukee]

1 hour ago, zenmaster said:

I have a feeling the white sox are going to end up with him. They have a lot of cash, are opening up their wallets, and not afraid to overspend. A dangerous combo.

we have a fair amount to spend as well.  I think the Angels will be more aggressive with Wheeler than Grandal.  

[Jeff Fletcher]

On 11/21/2019 at 2:46 PM, ukyah said:

one thing doesn't have to do with the other. the angels will lose their 2nd round pick if they sign cole. it doesn't go to the astros, it just goes away.

This is correct

[tdawg87]

Offer him the Hamilton contract.

#notmymoney

[wopphil]

Why not offer Wheeler a year longer than anyone else offers? If he has 5 year offers on the table, offer him a 6th year. Same thing with Cole - go to 8 years if need be. Plenty of teams have locked up pitchers late into their 30s (Greinke, Sale, Scherzer, Verlander, to name a few).

[floplag]

I really dont want another off season of being "contenders"...
That having been said if @Dochalo is right and it comes down to either spending on a C or spending on a better secondary pitcher, then the choice is obvious. 
Ive said many times i think we need to fill one of those spots in trade, whether its for the second pitcher or the C doesnt really matter. 

[Stradling]

24 minutes ago, wopphil said:

Why not offer Wheeler a year longer than anyone else offers? If he has 5 year offers on the table, offer him a 6th year. Same thing with Cole - go to 8 years if need be. Plenty of teams have locked up pitchers late into their 30s (Greinke, Sale, Scherzer, Verlander, to name a few).

Just give him $3.5 million more per year than you were willing to give him