Billy Hamilton Rule...

[red321]

https://mlb.nbcsports.com/2019/07/10/atlantic-league-to-experiment-with-batters-stealing-first-base/

The Atlantic League will be experimenting with a new rule in the second half of the season

In the second half of the season, the league will allow batters to steal first base: Any pitch on any count not caught in flight will be considered a live ball, and a batter may run to first base, similar to a dropped third strike.

[tdawg87]

[Stradling]

That is crazy, I consider myself more of a traditionalist, but I think I love this idea.  

[m0nkey]

So an 0-2 curveball in the dirt that gets to the backstop and the batter has a get out of jail free card

[GrittyVeterans]

Makes a catcher that can block pitches WAY more valuable. Interesting

[arch stanton]

I've got another one to try out.

Any walk that occurs after an 0-2 count is a 2 base walk

 

[floplag]

Interesting.  Im not sure i like it, but if it will add excitement to the game im down.  
How does it get scored, wild pitch no at bat?  I assume that is hes thrown out hes out and doesnt just go back to batting?  

[Chuck]

I like it. 

[Taylor]

1 hour ago, arch stanton said:

I've got another one to try out.

Any walk that occurs after an 0-2 count is a 2 base walk

I think the Angels should fine their pitchers every time they commit this heinous act. $10,000 per instance.

[Taylor]

Mathis has been preparing for this for years.

[ScottT]

dislike

[DCAngelsFan]

Seems obvious - but if on the first pitch, it goes to the backstop, and the runner tries for first but is thrown out.  They're "out", right?  I mean, they don't get to go back to a 1-0 count?  

The author asks a reasonable question - who asked for this?  

[IIIII]

I actually like this. Would very rarely happen but it would punish big mistakes. This would also only work with fast runners. Even if the ball bounces 30 yards from the catcher Pujols would still get thrown out lol.

[red321]

Just now, DCAngelsFan said:

Seems obvious - but if on the first pitch, it goes to the backstop, and the runner tries for first but is thrown out.  They're "out", right?  I mean, they don't get to go back to a 1-0 count?  

The author asks a reasonable question - who asked for this?  

That would be my guess, basically the batter can't leave the batter's box, if they do it's consider attempting to "steal first". Could create some interesting scenarios like what if there is a runner on first and he doesn't attempt to advance but the runner at the plate tries to go to first.

 

Not sure why this is necessary

[Taylor]

I wonder if this would penalize batters who continually step outside the box. Nomah could have been "caught stealing" several times per game.

[robblin17]

Put me in the this is Facking stupid camp. 

 

[Angel Oracle]

6 minutes ago, red321 said:

That would be my guess, basically the batter can't leave the batter's box, if they do it's consider attempting to "steal first". Could create some interesting scenarios like what if there is a runner on first and he doesn't attempt to advance but the runner at the plate tries to go to first.

 

Not sure why this is necessary

I would guess that it would work like with the current rules when the batter strikes out, but the ball gets away and the batter goes to first but the runner on 1st stays there?

[BackUpTheTruck]

 

[floplag]

19 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

I would guess that it would work like with the current rules when the batter strikes out, but the ball gets away and the batter goes to first but the runner on 1st stays there?

How could it count as an out though?  none was recorded.   This isnt quite the same scenario.   It would almost have to be no at bat i would think more like a BB than a K.

[AngelsLakersFan]

I have been pitching this idea for years. I didn't expect that anyone was listening. They just gotta add in the 'no timeout' component and we are really going for it.

[AngelsLakersFan]

1 hour ago, floplag said:

Interesting.  Im not sure i like it, but if it will add excitement to the game im down.  
How does it get scored, wild pitch no at bat?  I assume that is hes thrown out hes out and doesnt just go back to batting?  

Im not sure of their implementation, but the idea I had been pitching is to treat the batter just like any other base runner. You make the entire batters box his safe area, and if he leaves it he can be tagged out. Once the batter leaves the home plate area it becomes a force out just like any ball in play.

[Claude]

Perfect if your name is Bourjos. 

[SlappyUtilityMIF]

42 minutes ago, red321 said:

That would be my guess, basically the batter can't leave the batter's box, if they do it's consider attempting to "steal first". Could create some interesting scenarios like what if there is a runner on first and he doesn't attempt to advance but the runner at the plate tries to go to first.

 

Not sure why this is necessary

I guess, the rule would be similar to a infield fly runner may advance at that their own risk. 

 

[Dick Enberg]

2 hours ago, red321 said:

https://mlb.nbcsports.com/2019/07/10/atlantic-league-to-experiment-with-batters-stealing-first-base/

The Atlantic League will be experimenting with a new rule in the second half of the season

In the second half of the season, the league will allow batters to steal first base: Any pitch on any count not caught in flight will be considered a live ball, and a batter may run to first base, similar to a dropped third strike.

"May" run to 1st base? what if he doesn't? can they tag him out? lots of open ends on this.

how about anyone walked on 4 straight pitches gets a 2 base walk

 

[SlappyUtilityMIF]

3 minutes ago, Calzone 2 said:

Perfect if your name is Bourjos. 

He couldn't Steal 2nd or 3rd how is he stealing 1st?...