Thoughts and Prayers

[UndertheHalo]

The article I read described them as armor piercing.  But it made it seem like the main thing was that he wasn’t licensed. 

[UndertheHalo]

It’ll come as a surprise to everyone I’m sure that I’m of the opinion that any special extra deadly bullet should be wholly banned.  Period. 

[Make Angels Great Again]

FMJ (full metal jacket) rounds are technically armor piercing I think, and those are widely available. @Jason can correct me if i'm wrong but I think they're mostly used as training rounds since they're cheaper. They're discouraged as home defense rounds since they'll go through many different things before stopping. Hollow points are what should be used in that case as they stop much sooner, but they're a little bit pricier.

[Jason]

2 hours ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

FMJ (full metal jacket) rounds are technically armor piercing I think, and those are widely available. @Jason can correct me if i'm wrong but I think they're mostly used as training rounds since they're cheaper. They're discouraged as home defense rounds since they'll go through many different things before stopping. Hollow points are what should be used in that case as they stop much sooner, but they're a little bit pricier.

They are not armor piercing but everything else is accurate. Terrible choice as a defensive round. 

[Jason]

5 hours ago, UndertheHalo said:

Does anyone know if there was anything remarkable about the ammunition the guy was manufacturing?  I understand that it was some sort of armor piercing round.  Is that sort of thing readily available otherwise from other sources who are “licensed” ?
 

It is illegal to sell or make armor piercing rounds. They are considered incendiary. You can have them with a special license issued by the ATF. Kind of like possessing military weapons and machine guns.   

[Taylor]

8 hours ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

FMJ (full metal jacket) rounds are technically armor piercing I think, and those are widely available. @Jason can correct me if i'm wrong but I think they're mostly used as training rounds since they're cheaper. They're discouraged as home defense rounds since they'll go through many different things before stopping. Hollow points are what should be used in that case as they stop much sooner, but they're a little bit pricier.

Sounds like something that should be legal to own. 

[Taylor]

4 hours ago, Jason said:

It is illegal to sell or make armor piercing rounds.

Shall. Not. Be. Infringed.

[the dude abides]

21 minutes ago, Taylor said:

Shall. Not. Be. Infringed.

Some folks just hate freedom.

[Jason]

1 hour ago, Taylor said:

Sounds like something that should be legal to own. 

Hollow points are legal. I use them in my carry guns

[T.G.]

Not one "fan boy" reference since yesterday.

That's disappointing.

[Tank]

10 hours ago, Jason said:

It is illegal to sell or make armor piercing rounds.

 

5 hours ago, Taylor said:

Shall. Not. Be. Infringed.

show me where it says in the constitution that there shouldn't be any limitations to ammunition.

and then show me why we can't own things like bazookas and tanks.

[Adam]

On 11/20/2019 at 12:36 PM, Tank said:

 

show me where it says in the constitution that there shouldn't be any limitations to ammunition.

and then show me why we can't own things like bazookas and tanks.

We should be able to have all of those things IMO

[Lou]

I've never owned any type of firearm.  I've never thought about owning any type of firearm.

But I definitely want a bazooka.

[St1ck]

11 minutes ago, Lou said:

I've never owned any type of firearm.  I've never thought about owning any type of firearm.

But I definitely want a bazooka.

You can get one for $25 on eBay.

Hasbro G.I. Joe Wave 9 Bazooka Action Figure for sale online | eBay
https://www.ebay.com/p/139667332?iid=113872393685&chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&itemid=113872393685&targetid=809743885825&device=m&mktype=pla&googleloc=9031563&poi=&campaignid=6470661108&mkgroupid=81598575310&rlsatarget=pla-809743885825&abcId=1141156&merchantid=6296724&gclid=CjwKCAiAlO7uBRANEiwA_vXQ-znWD5nEdczQIocqZTToMVVAnBOAdIjkmk79_jv-tW6DrXH99MmP1RoCxgUQAvD_BwE

[Lou]

[Tank]

3 hours ago, Lou said:

I've never owned any type of firearm.  I've never thought about owning any type of firearm.

But I definitely want a bazooka.

My wife has a tank. 

A mighty fine tank.

[Jason]

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/25/us/feral-hog-death-trnd/index.html
 

you may want to grab your gun in this city and clear the yard before letting your kids go play in it

[T.G.]

 

[Lhalo]

7 hours ago, Jason said:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/25/us/feral-hog-death-trnd/index.html
 

you may want to grab your gun in this city and clear the yard before letting your kids go play in it

[Taylor]

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/06/us/nas-pensacola-shooting.html

If only there were more good guys with guns at a Naval Air Base, these three deaths might have been prevented.

[Spirit]

Guess this will quickly move from "gun control" to "Muslim's are bad" in the news cycle. 

 

 

[Jason]

33 minutes ago, Taylor said:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/06/us/nas-pensacola-shooting.html

If only there were more good guys with guns at a Naval Air Base, these three deaths might have been prevented.

There are very few guns on bases unless they have MPs all over the place 

[Jason]

The dude that shot the people at Pearl Harbor a couple of days ago was on duty, guarding a submarine when he just started shooting people with his service weapons. That is weird AF.

[gotbeer]

Lately, it seems like military bases are the new post office.  

[arch stanton]

Pretty much all the Saudi aircrew that train in Pensacola or other American facilities end up in my simulator. They’re among the best they have. Generally smart and well educated, able to engage in thoughtful conversation and eager to tell tales about their love of fast food and how they were introduced to actual enforcement of traffic laws.  Even then, going to the US can be a big culture shock to them and the biggest difference is in the expectation that they work hard and make no excuses. There’s a ton of pressure on these kids to succeed and excel. It doesn’t surprise me that one would eventually snap. I’ll see what the rumor mill puts out this week 

Edited December 7, 2019 by arch stanton