Aroldis Chapman

[19HALO71]

Becomes a free agent at the end of this season. Given his off field antics, would you be willing to sign this player?

Personally, I have no problem with what a player does outside the lines. I don't need role models on my team, I just want my team to win.

I would be in favor in signing Chapman.

Go Halos!!!

[AngelsFanSince86]

Just now, 19HALO71 said:

Becomes a free agent at the end of this season. Given his off field antics, would you be willing to sign this player?

Personally, I have no problem with what a player does outside the lines. I don't need role models on my team, I just want my team to win.

Go Halos!!!

I wouldn't.  I am the opposite.  I don't need the players to be saints, but at a certain point you cross the line.  I don't want to cheer for someone who is just a terrible person.  Its why I hated the Hamilton signing from the start.  I also like players that children can look up to.  In the world of social media and quick access to the internet, its easy for kids to know about who these guys are and what they have done.  When they see that everyone is cheering for them, accepting them, and putting them on a pedestal, it creates a notion in the child's mind that its okay to, say, beat a woman.

[AngelsFanSince86]

Just now, hangin n wangin said:

Is Hamilton a terrible person though? Or just a drug addict?

Even before he signed with the Angels and then burned them while placing the blame on Arte for not knowing he was just going to screw up despite promising otherwise, he cheated on his wife and constantly made excuses every time he failed in a big moment.  Terrible might be a strong word, but he is not a good person addict or not.  Anyways, I don't really want to make this a discussion of Hamilton.  Shouldn't have even used that example.

[Erstad Grit]

6 minutes ago, hangin n wangin said:

Is Hamilton a terrible person though? Or just a drug addict?

He's a horrible person. 

[stormngt]

16 minutes ago, 19HALO71 said:

Becomes a free agent at the end of this season. Given his off field antics, would you be willing to sign this player?

Personally, I have no problem with what a player does outside the lines. I don't need role models on my team, I just want my team to win.

I would be in favor in signing Chapman.

Go Halos!!!

I would rather have bad guy off the field than the blow-pen on the field.

[stormngt]

10 minutes ago, AngelsFanSince86 said:

I wouldn't.  I am the opposite.  I don't need the players to be saints, but at a certain point you cross the line.  I don't want to cheer for someone who is just a terrible person.  Its why I hated the Hamilton signing from the start.  I also like players that children can look up to.  In the world of social media and quick access to the internet, its easy for kids to know about who these guys are and what they have done.  When they see that everyone is cheering for them, accepting them, and putting them on a pedestal, it creates a notion in the child's mind that its okay to, say, beat a woman.

That Salas person really seems to be a great guy.  And Santiago is just a wonderful person.

 

Personally, I would take a Chapman or KROD any day.

[Erstad Grit]

People who destroy their family because they prefer strippers and blow are horrible people.  

[yamsi12]

A pricey closer is probably the last thing the Angels need to be spending money on.

[California Cajun]

1 hour ago, 19HALO71 said:

Becomes a free agent at the end of this season. Given his off field antics, would you be willing to sign this player?

Personally, I have no problem with what a player does outside the lines. I don't need role models on my team, I just want my team to win.

I would be in favor in signing Chapman.

Go Halos!!!

Arte wouldn't sign him.

[19HALO71]

1 minute ago, California Cajun said:

Arte wouldn't sign him.

Kind of like he wouldn't sign a known recovering drug addict?

Go Halos!!!

[Robrock30]

1 hour ago, 19HALO71 said:

"Becomes a free agent at the end of this season."

Word is the Yankees have already approached him with a deal. Now they may deal him at the deadline because of this, but that doesn't preclude them from approaching him as a FA.

[kevinb]

1 hour ago, 19HALO71 said:

Becomes a free agent at the end of this season. Given his off field antics, would you be willing to sign this player?

Personally, I have no problem with what a player does outside the lines. I don't need role models on my team, I just want my team to win.

I would be in favor in signing Chapman.

Go Halos!!!

I don't care what u do off the field if it's drugs and hurting yourself. But if u are a domestic abuser child abuser and u have a bunch of dui your kind of an ass face and don't want you on the team I root for. And will root against you every chance I get 

[Catwhoshatinthehat]

Off field antics aside I don't see the Angels being willing to spend what it will take to sign a guy like him.  Given their many needs I don't blame them.  Having a shutdown closer is huge but they're better off spending money other ways.  Some of that money could go to multiple bullpen arms and the hope is one of them runs away with the job.

[zenmaster]

What exactly will he close when we are down in the 9th 75% of the time?

[Docwaukee]

6 minutes ago, zenmaster said:

What exactly will he close when we are down in the 9th 75% of the time?

the page.

[Chuck]

Why would Eppler or the Angels FO think we'd need this guy? Our bullpen is fine! 

We just need more clean peanuts. 

[mtangelsfan]

I can't stand the dude and wouldn't root for him if he played on the team.  Regardless, I don't think the Angels should be signing many free agents next season.  They just need to take their medicine and get better slowly gain some money and come back in 2018

 

Oh and hamilton is a bad person.  Not because he's a drug addict, but because he is a bad person.

[totdprods]

I would only have interest if the plan was to revisit him as a SP, but I don't think that's in the cards. And even then he'd still be too risky.

If we sign a major FA this offseason, I'd prefer Reddick.

[eligrba]

37 minutes ago, zenmaster said:

What exactly will he close when we are down in the 9th 75% of the time?

 

He would close whenever the game is at a pivotal point...so maybe the second or third inning?

[Vegas Halo Fan]

2 hours ago, yamsi12 said:

A pricey closer is probably the last thing the Angels need to be spending money on.

Off field issues aside, this is my thought. Chapman is a closer. If we don't score runs and we're always behind, it hardly matters if we sign him.

For the "I don't care what he does, just how he plays" crowd, people who fire handguns (eight times, no less) to settle an argument and feel the need to choke women in order to get their points across go a little beyond your garden variety domestic dispute. He could easily have killed the woman in question.

[Docwaukee]

If the Angels are going to spend a dime next year, I would rather have it be on the bullpen.  I like Jansen as the potentially more economical option over Chapman.  

[zenmaster]

32 minutes ago, eligrba said:

 

He would close whenever the game is at a pivotal point...so maybe the second or third inning?

This could be something new. We put our closer in for the first inning so we aren't losing when the 2nd inning starts! 

[Ohtaniland]

Chapman is a closer. Nothing to close here. We don't need him.

[AngelsLakersFan]

Serious question though. If we aren't going to spend money on quality relievers this off season, who are we going to spend it on (we have the money off the books)? 

If we aren't going to spend money again this offseason, when are we planning on improving the club, 2020?

[Vegas Halo Fan]

4 minutes ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

Serious question though. If we aren't going to spend money on quality relievers this off season, who are we going to spend it on (we have the money off the books)? 

If we aren't going to spend money again this offseason, when are we planning on improving the club, 2020?

Have you seen the upcoming free agent class? Last year was the time to spend, and we didn't.