Weaver in best shape of his life...sort of

[Angelsjunky]

Read about it here.

 

The bottom line: he says years of not stretching led to his decline. He also says he's feeling better than he has in years.

 

This could be the typical "best shape of his life" BS, or it could actually be somewhat promising. I'd love to see Jered come back strong.

[Pujols4MVP]

Prediction: has a average bounce back season throwing 87mph, Athletics sign him & then he has a career year 2.65 ERA with 90 mph fastballs that he locates like maddux. Putting on an athletics cap seems to help pitchers for unknown reasons....Kazmir, Colon, etc

Edited February 21, 2016 by MikeScioscia4MVP

[laagamer]

I hope he does great this year and we re-sign him to a nice economical contract.

 

You rock Jered. 

[ukyah]

Prediction: has a average bounce back season throwing 87mph, Athletics sign him & then he has a career year 2.65 ERA with 90 mph fastballs that he locates like maddux. Putting on an athletics cap seems to help pitchers for unknown reasons....Kazmir, Colon, etc

 

 

i don't think it was the A's cap helping colon.

[brianvargo]

This will be a telling year for Weave.  If there is something to be figured out, and he's actually hit upon and addressed it, then he could end up being the difference between an Angel team that wins 85-or-so games and an Angel team that makes the post-season.  He might also figure out a way to pitch effectively into his late 30s, hopefully for the Angels.

 

Of course, if it turns out that his decline was irreversible and led to 2016 being his final big league season, at least in an Angels' uniform, then he'll still rightly be remembered as a Halo great who fought until the end and who truly wanted to be here.  There are few players I respect as much, and none I respect more.

[seenoevil]

Crosses fingers that Weaver regain arm strength

[Second Base]

The velocity has been plummeting for years. I don't see an increase in mobility turning into the miracle cure that gets him back up to a range where he can be effective, which was 87+. My guess is, his velo has bottomed out, and he's just going to need to try and learn to be an effective pitcher throwing in the low 80's.

I think personally, velocity is overrated. Guy that throw 92 are frequently more effective than guys throwing 96. But there's a limit to that argument, and unless you're a knuckleballer, I'm guessing 86-87 is that limit. Weav, nor any other pitcher can't find pronounced success in today's game only throwing 83. Even Maddux had enough in the tank to pump it up over 90 when he found it necessary.

[Bruce Nye]

Prediction:  CJ will come into camp in the best shape ever.

[nando714]

Opening day starter

Bp for chi town

[bloodbrother]

Weav's awesome and hopefully he rebounds but it's naive to expect him to regain velocity. It's been steadily dropping for the past few years and this past season it finally completely cratered with a dramatic 3 MPH drop on ALL of his pitches

[ten ocho recon scout]

Im not holding my breath, but if theres anyone on this team im willing to give a shot to its weave. Forgetting how good he used to be, hes been a big clubhouse guy for years. He rubs people the wrong way sometimes, but he also brings a throwback attitude that gets people to compete. Thats one thing the guy has, respect from the people here and on all the other teams. Guys know hes a bulldog.

Good luck weave, hoping you finish your career here on a positive note.

[yamsi12]

Didn't Jered say that last spring training as well? That he had gained a little weight and felt the best he had ever?

[halosfan1970]

Didn't Jered say that last spring training as well? That he had gained a little weight and felt the best he had ever?

 

Yeah, he came to Spring Training with 20 more pounds last year. Was going from freakishly thin to skinny fat really going help? 

[arch stanton]

Never, ever underestimate the power of the contract year.

[ettin]

Prediction:  CJ will come into camp in the best shape ever.

 

Of course it's his walk year. Time to gut it out through the entire season now.

[Ohtaniland]

Jered has been fighting with his velocity issues for several years. What kind of idiotic training staff do we have that something as simple as stretching goes disregarded.

[ABC]

Prediction:  CJ will come into camp in the best shape ever.

 

 

 

[Docwaukee]

Jered has been fighting with his velocity issues for several years. What kind of idiotic training staff do we have that something as simple as stretching goes disregarded.

it's not disregarded.  it's just not all that likely to be a huge difference maker.  Weaver's age, protoplasm and mechanics make it so he's now throwing 83mph.  

 

here are his average fastball velocities by year

 

2007 - 90.0

2008 - 90.4

2009 - 88.7

2010 - 90.1

2011 - 89.2

2012 - 88.0

2013 - 86.8

2014 - 86.8

2015 - 84.9

 

He changed his delivery between 2012 and 2013.  He should go back to the old one now.  

[Ohtaniland]

it's not disregarded. it's just not all that likely to be a huge difference maker. Weaver's age, protoplasm and mechanics make it so he's now throwing 83mph.

here are his average fastball velocities by year

2007 - 90.0

2008 - 90.4

2009 - 88.7

2010 - 90.1

2011 - 89.2

2012 - 88.0

2013 - 86.8

2014 - 86.8

2015 - 84.9

He changed his delivery between 2012 and 2013. He should go back to the old one now.

His velocity situation parallels that of his brother Jeff in his career so it's not some newly discovered condition. I just can't believe that after all these years of sports science, medicine, medical staffs and trainers that Jered has now decided that stretching is important. In fact, it's ridiculous.

[Stradling]

I'll assume he's always stretched because anyone who works out stretches. However there's a difference between stretching to prevent injuries and stretching to truly increase flexibility.

[Redondo]

Sounds like he didn't like to do any kind of stretching

 

 

Angels' Jered Weaver is finally at the point where stretching could enhance his career longevity

 

For the first decade of his professional baseball career, Jered Weaver abhorred stretching. Therefore, he didn't do it. He avoided all but the most cursory forms of it. So what if it hurt his flexibility?

 

[Ohtaniland]

Something Jack LaLanne told us to do years ago was ignored by our trainers. We have the worst medical staff in baseball.

[Stradling]

You get what you pay for.

[zenmaster]

Something Jack LaLanne told us to do years ago was ignored by our trainers. We have the worst medical staff in baseball.

 

Not to mention it's one of the first things you learn in PE class in like kindergarten or 1st grade. Weaver didn't think the rules applied to him I guess.

[Stradling]

Read the article. It says he has been stretching for a couple of years and he did some light stretching before that. I read it like he is now stretching for flexibility rather than stretching for the sake of stretching.