Heyward to Cubs

[tomsred]

Heyward is gonna beast at Wrigley

Should be fun to watch, hopefully cubs have some national games next year

 

Yeah, I'm not surprised he got paid so well, it takes special botanical skills to deal with ivy.

[Troll Daddy]

https://twitter.com/BestFansStLouis

Comedy hour....

Thxs for sharing Hilarious

[tomsred]

https://twitter.com/BestFansStLouis

 

Comedy hour....

 

St. Louis has a lot of biggots, don't they?

Edited December 11, 2015 by tomsred

[UndertheHalo]

Seriously, stop saying he took less. That is such bullshit. His agent just advertised the 200m deal to get more money. I have no doubt that he took the highest offer.

yea this seems likely to me as well. Wasn't the guy that first broke it some Cubs blogger that thought the Cubs got Shelby Miller also?

Edited December 11, 2015 by UndertheHalo

[mulwin444]

https://twitter.com/BestFansStLouis

 

Comedy hour....

Cards fans are classy

[ten ocho recon scout]

The park might actually make the metrics look better.... He's going to be getting to balls outside of "CF" more often in Wrigley -- smallest CF area in all of MLB.

intersting. Would you say thats a flaw in defense metrics? Park factor so to speak?

[bloodbrother]

Cespedes 20.9% career K%

Upton 24.9% career K%

 

What were your thoughts watching Cron this past season? What did you think about his plate approach?

[Jim]

Why do I get the feeling the Angels never actually made an offer?

I mean I get that he apparently took less to play with Chicago so it wouldn't have likely mattered. But you can't sign anyone if you don't offer them a contract.

All you need to do now is say that about ten more times in other threads and it will become fact.

Bring on the fire Arte threads.

[Guest]

Gordon Wittenmyer ‏@GDubCub

Heyward deal less than $185m. Believed to be eight years.

 

 

Wow less than $185M? Jeez. Cubs signing 2 of the best FA's on awesome deals

There's a reason why teams are willing to pay extra for GMs like Theo Epstein. He gets deals like these done. 

[CanadianHalo]

What were your thoughts watching Cron this past season? What did you think about his plate approach?

Well said, I see what you did there

[ten ocho recon scout]

I know wveryone here wanted him, and for the price he got, yeah, that would have been great for us. But i still say upton is the better fit for us.

Now, if we dont get him, i riot

[Jim]

Seriously, stop saying he took less. That is such bullshit. His agent just advertised the 200m deal to get more money. I have no doubt that he took the highest offer.

No doubt? Even with all the reports on Washington offering 200mil.

[Jobu]

Twitter has a lot of biggots, don't they?

Fixed

[nate]

No doubt? Even with all the reports on Washington offering 200mil.

 

Here is how it works.

 

Cubs are the team with the highest offer because the Cards just dropped out.  Agent tells Cubs he has an offer for 200m from another team and that 8/185 wont cut it.

 

Agent sends mass text to sportswriters saying that they have a 200m offer from the Nats.

 

Sportswriters say: "Sources: Heyward has 200m offer from the Nats"

 

Cubs say they wont budge from their current offer.  Agent tells Cubs that Heyward will join them even though they offered less.

[bloodbrother]

Well said, I see what you did there

 

Yep

 

Cron - 4.2% BB%, 20.3% K%

 

Cespedes - 4.9% BB%, 20.9% K%

 

 

This is exactly what scares me about Cespedes moving forward. Exciting player with legit power but I just hate buying into 30+ year olds with poor approaches at the plate.

[nate]

Cespedes makes way better contact than Cron though and he is good at defense.  Cron may as well not even join the field of play he is so bad.

[floplag]

Upton makes the most sense IMO. Him or Cespedes have the power the team is looking for now but the 2 year age difference gives Upton the edge

 

Why?  28 v 30 isnt that big a deal and YC put up much better numbers   if we are talking 3-4 years for either one i dont think age is a factor in this case personally. 

It isnt like either one is at a point where thats a huge concern assuming similar contract lengths of course. 

[tomsred]

Cespedes - career w/ men in scoring: .305avg

men on base: .289avg

Upton - career w/ men in scoring: .252avg

men on base: .267avg

This makes me want Cespedes but the age difference makes me feel like Upton might be the better choice. Depending on where Scioscia plugs Upton in the lineup maybe it could improve his numbers?

 

It's kind of interesting with Cespedes, the mere fact that we might get out of this post season without giving up our pick is possible.  We could sign Cespedes, Freeze, a couple of good bullpen pieces, maybe another nice bench piece, and call it a day for now.  I think we would be competitive in our division, and still protect some future.  It's a long season, we might want to save a bullet or two for the trade deadline if we are in the mix.

[Jim]

I know wveryone here wanted him, and for the price he got, yeah, that would have been great for us. But i still say upton is the better fit for us.

Now, if we dont get him, i riot

We might want to get the torch oil out and sharpen up the pitch forks a bit. Better to be prepaired.

[Inside Pitch]

intersting. Would you say thats a flaw in defense metrics? Park factor so to speak?

 

Not being privy to the exact formulas --- hard to say.   Defensive metrics are still a work in progress IMO.  While I don't completely discount them, I don't take them at face value as I would other metrics.

[ten ocho recon scout]

We might want to get the torch oil out and sharpen up the pitch forks a bit. Better to be prepaired.

ive already wrapped a t shirt on my head and put on a really old wife beater shirt.

And ive called the pizza hut to warn them of whats coming to them...for their part in us laying an egg this winter

[ten ocho recon scout]

#angelsfanslivesmatter

[bloodbrother]

Cespedes makes way better contact than Cron though and he is good at defense.  Cron may as well not even join the field of play he is so bad.

 

Actually....

 

Cespedes Contact % - 78.3%

Cron Contact % - 80.3%

 

Of course, if you meant that Cespedes makes better hard contact than Cron then that would be correct

Edited December 11, 2015 by bloodbrother

[Jim]

Here is how it works.

Cubs are the team with the highest offer because the Cards just dropped out. Agent tells Cubs he has an offer for 200m from another team and that 8/185 wont cut it.

Agent sends mass text to sportswriters saying that they have a 200m offer from the Nats.

Sportswriters say: "Sources: Heyward has 200m offer from the Nats"

Cubs say they wont budge from their current offer. Agent tells Cubs that Heyward will join them even though they offered less.

That sounds like a solid plan, right up to the point where the Washington GM has to answer for his team getting beat out by a smaller bid. Natswin.Com will want answers!

[CanadianHalo]

Actually....

Cespedes Contact % - 78.3%

Cron Contact % - 80.3%

Was just about to post this, Upton has the lowest of the 3 at 73%