Angels Acquire Shane Victorino.

[ScottT]

The Diaz/Rutledge trade is irrelevant at this point.  Especially since the GM that made that deal is no longer here.  It would be irrelevant if he was still here, imo.

[ettin]

@ettin....Thanks but, I want to know his home stats vs Lefties in Boston vs on the road. I don't want highlights and bits.... I'm too lazy and old to do it on my own....Thanks!

Okey dokey! Boston career numbers vs. LHP, Home/Road:

Home: 133 PA's, 4.75 PA's/1B, 14.78 PA's/2B, 0 3B's, 26.60 PA's/HR

Away: 139 PA's, 4.96 PA's/1B, 27.80 PA's/2B, 0 3B's, 46.33 PA's/HR

So during his time at Boston, at home, he hit more 2B's and HR's. A majority of those doubles and all of the HR's were tight down the left field line.

Edited July 28, 2015 by ettin

[Wallerrrr]

I like it. Good 4th OF and #2 hitter against LHP.

Also Cory hates him for no reason

he's always had a strange hatred of Hawaiians....

[tdawg87]

@JonHeymanCBS: angels still seek a lefty hitting OF. victorino acquisition was for depth purposes. bruce, murphy, revere are names linked.

 

Why not Revere and Lind? Both could likely be had without giving up a ton.

[bloodbrother]

That would be ideal. Neither should cost a lot in terms of assets. Sounds like the Cards are close to acquiring Lind though

[stormngt]

Why do we care? We only gave up Rutledge. The injury issue is only an issue if he is an expected starter and or we gave up a lot for him.

What about his total of 63 games played the last two seasons? He makes Hamilton look reliable.

[ten ocho recon scout]

go get david murphy. the platoon of Victorino/Murphy in LF gives you an .800 ops OFer with solid defense. Then go get Lind to DH with Cron.

as much as i understand the reasoning behind this, im teminded of what we all said about joyce this last winter...im on board with going non splashy, as someone mentioned victorino/murphy, if it means we retain our main prospects. That said, with catcher and 3b being average, 2b being fun but possible fall off at some point, id just prefer to get a bonafide plus bat starter.

Thats obviously easier said than done. And again, im ok with going on a budget. Id just prefer we get an actual addition. Street made a huge impact last year. It obviously didnt get us over the hump at the end, but it helped a hell of a lot more than the previous approach to fixing the pen. As far as offense goes, we havent really added anyone since hamilton (and i can see why). But it would be nice to get an actual guy we can fill in to LF over the next 2-3 years who can hit.

[ten ocho recon scout]

There is no such thing as a 45 day DL.

thats usually our guys when theyre "day to day"

Joyce will probably wake up fine tomorrow though and get activated. The injury gods hate us.

[Angelfaninidaho]

For the love of f^#, Godda)(*&, Fuc*&9, TRADE TROPEANO AND GOTT FOR CESPEDES!!!!  NOW!!!!!!

[Angelfaninidaho]

Calhoun, Trout, Pujols, Cespedes, Cron, Aybar

[ettin]

I'm perfectly fine with platooning Murphy and Victorino. What I do hope we'll do is try to acquire backup AAA depth with the same type of platoon issues so that if one of the platoon partners goes down we have an immediate replacement and don't skip a beat.

 

Maybe that's Kubitza playing more left field in AAA to act as a possible replacement if Murphy goes down. We have Cowgill and Robertson to back up Victorino.

[Hollyw00d]

Do you have any idea how much of a field day mota would have saying cespedes name

[Angelfaninidaho]

Do you have any idea how much of of a field day I would have?  "don't worry son, they have to pitch to Trout, even with Calhoun on first, because Pujols and Cespedes are up next..."

[Hollyw00d]

Sespeedees has got this, bubba

[Blarg]

For the love of f^#, Godda)(*&, Fuc*&9, TRADE TROPEANO AND GOTT FOR CESPEDES!!!! NOW!!!!!!

Did you know Cespedes is just a rental, that he walks as a free agent in the off season? The Angels would not receive draft pick compensation.

So you want to let go of a guy that could take a rotation spot next season and a relief pitcher with a high upside for a couple months of Cespedes. Doesn't sound like a fair trade for the Angels but the Tigers would probably pull the trigger since they will be in desperate need of cost controlled arms.

So will the Angels if they throw them away for a couple months of a player that guarantees nothing in terms of success.

[Angel Oracle]

Wait until the off-season to sign Cespedes.

No more rental acquisitions that cost key prospects!

[ELEVEN]

21st birthday. Mai Tai and dinner in Beverly Hills, then Crown Royal at a real bar until closing time.

Don't knock it till you've tried it. Of course if I drank like that now I'd be Caitlin Jenner.

Fixed.

[Angelfaninidaho]

Did you know Cespedes is just a rental, that he walks as a free agent in the off season? The Angels would not receive draft pick compensation.

So you want to let go of a guy that could take a rotation spot next season and a relief pitcher with a high upside for a couple months of Cespedes. Doesn't sound like a fair trade for the Angels but the Tigers would probably pull the trigger since they will be in desperate need of cost controlled arms.

So will the Angels if they throw them away for a couple months of a player that guarantees nothing in terms of success.

 

This is the year.  Yes he's a rental.  But if Skaggs OR Newcomb can be just as good as Tropeano, not better, just as good, then hell yeah you go for it this year..  Are you saying Trop or Skaggs guarantees success in the future??  They aren't even guaranteed to play in the big leagues ever.  I was there in 2002, game 2 and game 7.  I want that now and this team is good enough.  We have Pujols being the Pujols we wanted, we have Trout, we have Calhoun and Aybar.  What are we waiting for? We were right there last year and got run over by KC.  I know.. let's blow off the year.  Build the farm system for some distant dynasty that never happens, bitch and complain about the manager, blah, blah..  F that, let's go all in now.  It's time.  I'll take one WS this year, like 2002, over any BS wishful thinking in the future any day and twice on Sundays.

[ettin]

Wait until the off-season to sign Cespedes.

No more rental acquisitions that cost key prospects!

 

Which, in the hypothetical they want Cespedes, is why you go with two cheaply acquired platoon partners.

[QuinlansMinion]

After calming down a bit, ive realized this is the type of move ive been wanting the front office to make for years.  Hes a good postseason bat and knows how to play smart baseball in October.  This also gives us a pinch runner late in games, which for some stupid reason we didnt have last year.  

[LBHalos17]

The price is right for this deal.  Vic will be good against lefties, a good baserunner, a proven post-season performer, and a great influence in the clubhouse.

 

I'm looking forward to seeing him play for us... But, then again, I was thrilled at the Hamilton signing too.  We'll see.

[fan_since79]

Stoneman could really troll us by stopping right here. When Joyce comes back from his headache we get a Victorino/Joyce platoon in left.

 

One of either Cespedes, Bruce, Lind, or Murphy had better be on our roster come August 1st, or this place may explode.

[Angelfaninidaho]

Nevermind.  Skaggs will be awesome.  Next year will be awesome..  **** it.

[tomsred]

Stoneman could really troll us by stopping right here. When Joyce comes back from his headache we get a Victorino/Joyce platoon in left.

 

One of either Cespedes, Bruce, Lind, or Murphy had better be on our roster come August 1st, or this place may explode.

 

 

Don't you mean that fan_since79 May explode?  I bet we get another player, but it won't be any of the four you mentioned.

[fan_since79]

This is the year.  Yes he's a rental.  But if Skaggs OR Newcomb can be just as good as Tropeano, not better, just as good, then hell yeah you go for it this year..  Are you saying Trop or Skaggs guarantees success in the future??  They aren't even guaranteed to play in the big leagues ever.  I was there in 2002, game 2 and game 7.  I want that now and this team is good enough.  We have Pujols being the Pujols we wanted, we have Trout, we have Calhoun and Aybar.  What are we waiting for? We were right there last year and got run over by KC.  I know.. let's blow off the year.  Build the farm system for some distant dynasty that never happens, bitch and complain about the manager, blah, blah..  F that, let's go all in now.  It's time.  I'll take one WS this year, like 2002, over any BS wishful thinking in the future any day and twice on Sundays.

 

I like your passion, but Newcomb is untouchable, imo. The kid's going to be an ace.