Cops are great

[Taylor]

25 minutes ago, Jason said:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/
 

I'm talking about the history of our country. 

[Jason]

16 minutes ago, Franklin Bluth said:

I'm talking about the history of our country. 

I don’t know if they kept these stats then but to assume police violence is unique to POC is probably incorrect but yes POC have experienced far more oppression than we have and I won’t argue against that. The systemic racism that they claim exists now is not to the extent as they’d have you believe. Sure, there are plenty of laws you could argue that are but I think they are just bad laws and not necessarily seated in racism. I think the bigger issue is that it pays to have money in our justice system. That’s wrong

Edited May 30, 2020 by Jason

[Lhalo]

The lack of action by local officials in Minneapolis makes me think they’re baiting Trump into sending in federal authorities. You have a liberal mayor and a liberal governor who won’t control the riots and in the meantime the city burns. 

[Lhalo]

I need a judgment call on this 3 point turn.

https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1266595819530203141?s=21

 

Edited May 30, 2020 by Lhalo

[arch stanton]

1 hour ago, Lhalo said:

I need a judgment call on this 3 point turn.

https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1266595819530203141?s=21

 

I’d do the same thing. If they don’t respect the weight class disparity of challenging an SUV then give them a lesson in simple physics 

[Taylor]

6 hours ago, Jason said:

I don’t know if they kept these stats then but to assume police violence is unique to POC is probably incorrect but yes POC have experienced far more oppression than we have and I won’t argue against that. The systemic racism that they claim exists now is not to the extent as they’d have you believe. Sure, there are plenty of laws you could argue that are but I think they are just bad laws and not necessarily seated in racism. I think the bigger issue is that it pays to have money in our justice system. That’s wrong

The foundation of our country is seeped in racism, from the Declaration of Independence, which endorsed violent colonialism against Native Americans; to the Constitution, which counted black people as 3/5ths human; to Manifest Destiny; to the Doctrine of Discovery; to the Trail of Tears; to the nation fighting a bloody war because half of the country would die and kill to protect their right to enslave black people; to Japanese internment camps; to Jim Crow; to a court system that is rigged against people of color; to "Make America Great Again."

Racism isn't the only social evil in our country, but it does exist, and we can't be intellectually honest without acknowledging that America is historically a racist nation. 

Sorry for the lecture. I just think it's funny when people like LHalo point out that white people don't start riots (which isn't true), implying that black people are somehow deficient or less civilized while ignoring our history.

[Lou]

https://www.theusconstitution.org/news/understanding-the-three-fifths-compromise/

[Redondo]

3 hours ago, Lou said:

https://www.theusconstitution.org/news/understanding-the-three-fifths-compromise/

Good read and explains it in detail.

 

[tdawg87]

4 hours ago, Lou said:

https://www.theusconstitution.org/news/understanding-the-three-fifths-compromise/

So it still counted them as 3/5ths of a person. Got it.

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Denigration of the Constitution is not restricted

Racist.

[Lou]

16 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

So it still counted them as 3/5ths of a person. Got it.

Incorrect

[Angels Never Die]

4 hours ago, Lou said:

https://www.theusconstitution.org/news/understanding-the-three-fifths-compromise/

Actually this is exactly what I was taught in public school about it. What is your point? 

[Blarg]

19 hours ago, Angels Never Die said:

If it takes property being destroyed in order for black communities to get justice, then I don't have a problem with that. 

The officer was charged with murder before the riots started. 

[Angels Never Die]

3 minutes ago, Blarg said:

The officer was charged with murder before the riots started. 

Um no, he wasn't. There were riots on Thursday, he was arrested Friday. What am I missing?

[Blarg]

The rest of the week. 

[Angels Never Die]

3 minutes ago, Blarg said:

The rest of the week. 

Wtf are you talking about? You said the arrest preceded the riots, I show you it didn't. 

[Blarg]

They probably should have lynched Chauvin on the spot. Would that been expedient enough for the masses? 

 

[Angels Never Die]

3 minutes ago, Blarg said:

They probably should have lynched Chauvin on the spot. Would that been expedient enough for the masses? 

 

Keep on pivoting. Ignore that what you said was inaccurate.

[Blarg]

Ignore that justice isn't an instant, on the spot when dealing with the police. He was fired immediately. He was charged with murder in the shortest turnaround I've ever read about in police misconduct. They have to go through their procedures, he still has rights that have to be observed. 

Now a federal security guard in Oakland is dead, another hospitalized with gunshot wounds and you want to be the rioters advocate playing gotcha games. 

[Angels Never Die]

1 minute ago, Blarg said:

Ignore that justice isn't an instant, on the spot when dealing with the police. He was fired immediately. He was charged with murder in the shortest turnaround I've ever read about in police misconduct. They have to go through their procedures, he still has rights that have to be observed. 

Now a federal security guard in Oakland is dead, another hospitalized with gunshot wounds and you want to be the rioters advocate playing gotcha games. 

You said the arrest preceded the riots, it didn't, and now you keep trying to pivot because you got called on it.

[Blarg]

Oh ffs you made that point. The rest of your argument for the rioting dies on justice actually being put into motion. 

[Angels Never Die]

1 minute ago, Blarg said:

Oh ffs you made that point. The rest of your argument for the rioting dies on justice actually being put into motion. 

Yes, I made it, you side stepped it. I'm gonna keep doing this until you admit you tried to gotcha me with something that was entirely untrue.

[Stradling]

Or you can not be an ass and understand you made your point.  

[Angels Never Die]

6 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Or you can not be an ass and understand you made your point.  

Nah, I'll keep being an ass to someone who was trying to bait me with a lie.

[Blarg]

4 minutes ago, Angels Never Die said:

Yes, I made it, you side stepped it. I'm gonna keep doing this until you admit you tried to gotcha me with something that was entirely untrue.

Dude, you got that already. You're just too ego bound to see it. 

Here, for your tiny IDs satisfaction.

I was wrong about the timeline.

The rioting is unlawful and wrong considering the cry is for justice and those involved have been charged. 

 

 

[Stradling]

I’m firmly in the camp of murder is wrong, rioting is less wrong, looting is less less wrong and that a large number of the people doing the looting are being advantages of the situation and care very little about the social injustice of the black man that was murdered.  I will not feel bad if the looters get roughed up by the National Guard if they get called in, not even a little bit, regardless of color.