Official: Garza to Brewers

[Season Over]

Good, I hear he's a real meanie on Twitter or something.

[Stradling]

I don't either but it's better than investing more money into the same type of pitcher.

If you really think that Blanton and Arroyo are the same type pitcher, then we will have to stop this discussion right now, because in my mind they are miles apart.

[Richard]

This board is going to be Real good for the next couple of days OR weeks.

[bloodbrother]

It wouldn't surprise me if he was

Would it surprise you?

 

Yes, it would. If this team is looking to try and compete this year they will not trot Blanton out as the 5th starter. He was a disaster and his signing was dumb from the start. I honestly don't think he makes the team out of spring training. They'll either find some way to trade him(eat most of the $7.5 mill he's owed this year) or simply just DFA him

[Stradling]

Arroyo has a sub 3.80 ERA in four of the past five years, on that field. I am not saying he is amazing, but he is certainly solid depth.

[Cdaniel]

If you really think that Blanton and Arroyo are the same type pitcher, then we will have to stop this discussion right now, because in my mind they are miles apart.

Both are control pitchers that have the tendency to give up the long ball. I'd like to see a side by side comparison between the two.

[nando714]

This board is going to be Real good this season.

Season over

This Org. Is really banking on Mulder to bounce back. F'n sad.

Here's to dumpster diving Mr. DiPoto & Artemus

Edited January 23, 2014 by nando714

[bloodbrother]

Alden Gonzalez ‏@Alden_Gonzalez now

Major difference b/w this offseason and last two, for better or worse: They’re not getting forced into contracts they’re uncomfortable with.

 

Good to hear. They've already done enough damage the past few years overpaying for mediocre to awful production

[Inside Pitch]

At 13 million a year, if the Angels don't even attempt to match this offer, they are stupid.

 

Ever wonder if maybe the medicals scared them off?   A lot of people felt that Garza might be paid the best among the pitchers left because of the lack of draft compensation -- he ends up getting 52 mil.   The D-Backs wouldnt go 4 years due to concerns about his arm, it seems the Angels didn't want to go that long either.

 

FOUR stints on the DL since 2010, both shoulder and elbow.   He's the classic case of where there is smoke, there is fire.  

Edited January 23, 2014 by Inside Pitch

[Stradling]

nando, channeling his inner AO and Tanaka at the same time, well done.

[Adam]

One benefit of getting Arroyo... He could serenade Trout with covers of Pearl Jam songs

[SoWhat]

Kendrick to Yanks

Gardner to Reds

Bailey to Angels

[Chimi]

Hopefully this means they are turning their attention to getting both Capuano and Malholm.

Edited January 23, 2014 by Chimi

[HaloMilliVanilli]

Kendrick to Yanks

Gardner to Reds

Bailey to Angels

Cool with this, even if we need to kick in a prospect (s).

 

Weaver

Wilson

Bailey

Santiago

Richards

 

Gives me lump in shorts.

Edited January 23, 2014 by HaloCultureClub

[bloodbrother]

Aybar would command more in a deal and I'd rather they trade him

[Stradling]

Kendrick to Yanks

Gardner to Reds

Bailey to Angels

I love this. If this trade was a hot supermodel, I would hump it.

[xboom28x]

This starting staff is going to blow donkey nuts no matter who they pick up from here.

[Blarg]

Agreed.  Arroyo in the AL is Blanton II.

 

Arroyo for the last 8 years in Cincinnati has an ERA of 4.05, his last two years of 3.76. He averages 32 games per season along with 211 innings. He has been the epitome of a solid pitcher and is in no way a Blanton comparison.

[Brent Maguire]

Weird move for the Brewers.

I'm fine with this. We don't need another contract that will blow up in our face. Sign Capuano at 2/12 and possibly get another bullpen arm.

[floplag]

funny.. i was told that 4/50ish was a pipe dream, lol

 

I never liked this class of FA pitchers its just bad timing that we have a need when the piece simply wasn't there to get.. Garza was the best overall option i felt due to what i thought he would cost and what he might give us... but it seems clear that was never a real consideration by the org. as this dal would have been easily matched and by most accounts he would have much preferred being here, but cest la vie.

 

I keep going back to why the hell we just let Williams walk, without some kind of plan, that was a giant mistake.  We were better with him than we are today.. not to mention deeper.

 

At this point i walk away from the hot stove unless a silly deal falls into our laps.. nothing left out there is a 3.. nothing.  just a bunch of 4s that could have 3 days and 5 days, lol 

 

get on the phones Jerry, a trade is all you have left to really make it matter

[nando714]

Weird move for the Brewers.

I'm fine with this. We don't need another contract that will blow up in our face. Sign Capuano at 2/12 and possibly get another bullpen arm.

What BP arms are left

[stormngt]

I would go with the trade market if it were up to me. I would move Aybar in a NY minute if it brought us back a number 3, even if that meant going with Romine at short. This offense can handle a Romine in the line up.

 

I think its best to go the full "rebuild" route this year.  Look to trade both Aybar and Kendrick.  Let's be honest, both are in the last two years with the Angels anyway.  If we can get some good upside pitching products we would be in the position to give Trout a contract he can't refuse, and build for the future.  And who knows, just maybe the rotation of Weaver, Wilson, Richards, Santiago, and Skaggs can be successful. 

 

If we are not good enough to compete this year (and many believe that is so) than we should seriously consider trading Kendrick and Aybar for the best offer available.

[Guest]

Haha wow. I don't like Garza, but this team really needs pitching. I'd say the angels have a 0 chance of making the playoffs anytime soon.

Edited January 23, 2014 by failos

[Brent Maguire]

What BP arms are left

Nothing really at this point. Biggest name is probably Bailey and I'm pretty sure he's out until the ASB.

[nando714]

And what are we gonna get from our current guys?

2012 Weaver or the 2013

2012 CJ or 2013

We are potentially screwed....again

Front Office depending on our Bats again. Oh ya that worked out well last season. What a waste of a season and it's January.