UPDATE: The Colorado Rockies & Angels Trade Talks Cool - Rockies Pursue Justin Morneau

[ELEVEN]

Don't be giving us all false nopes.

[m0nkey]

Better than false hopes

[beatlesrule]

What a tease.  If we got Tulo......yeah, I won't go there.  That would mean though that we wouldn't have the players to get Price.  It's good to read that Arte might be aggressive with Tanaka.

[Adam]

Has anyone posted "Trumbo and 50 bombs at Coor's" yet?

Edited November 26, 2013 by Adam

[John Shay]

Absolutely NO CHANCE Cano is signed here.

 

I'm starting to think this could be a Kendrick / Ianetta or Conger for Rutledge / Pomeranz  / Prospect type deal

[floplag]

For me, the word significant is telling... speculation aside, i am assuming that if we are giving something significant, we must be getting something significant.

The bottom line is that this team as is sits right now has a limited window... we cant sit back and build the farm.  If we are making deals it has to be with an eye more on today, than tomorrow... thats the reality of where we are as an organization.

[RePLAY]

ok..I read this thread last night when it was 2 pages long.....now its 11...so can someone provide a summary?

[HaloCory22]

Its stuff like this that makes me really wish I had something to blackmail Chuck with.

Edited November 26, 2013 by Cory

[Scott34]

http://blogs.denverpost.com/rockies/2013/11/26/rockies-talking-with-angels-royals-looking-for-bat-bullpen-help-will-listen-to-offers-for-dexter-fowler/16047/

 

 

Rockies don't want to deal pitching, we don't need Fowler... I don't think there's a match.

[jsnpritchett]

ok..I read this thread last night when it was 2 pages long.....now its 11...so can someone provide a summary?

 

Sure.  Chuck made a post about the Angels and Rockies allegedly talking, people started throwing around ideas, and there's no official news.  That's pretty much it.

[SoWhat]

I don't see anything about them being reluctant to deal arms

[gotbeer]

Chuck is the chick at the bar that flirts with everyone, gets free drinks, and goes home with no one.

[Angel Dog and Beer]

ok..I read this thread last night when it was 2 pages long.....now its 11...so can someone provide a summary?

Could be LAA player A for COL player A

Could be LAA player A for COL player B

Could be LAA player A for COL player C

Could be LAA player B for COL player A

Could be LAA player C for COL player A

Could be LAA player A, B for COL player A,B

Could be LAA player A, C for COL player A, C

Could be LAA player B ,C for COL player B, C

Could be LAA player A, C for COL player A, B

Could be LAA player B, C for COL player A, C

 

Probably not LAA player A for COL player B

Probably not LAA player B for COL player C

Probably not LAA player C for COL player A

Probably not LAA player A, C for COL player A, B

Probably not LAA player B, C for COL player A, C

 

COL player A is better than COL player B

COL player B is better than COL player C

But some advanced metric thinks that COL player A is not better than COL player C.

Go figure.

[ELEVEN]

ok..I read this thread last night when it was 2 pages long.....now its 11...so can someone provide a summary?

We're gonna get screwed again.

[jsnpritchett]

http://blogs.denverpost.com/rockies/2013/11/26/rockies-talking-with-angels-royals-looking-for-bat-bullpen-help-will-listen-to-offers-for-dexter-fowler/16047/

 

 

Rockies don't want to deal pitching, we don't need Fowler... I don't think there's a match.

 

Yeah, not sure there's a good match, either. 

 

If, by some bizarre chance, we trade for Fowler, I will LOL.  His career away numbers:  .241/.333/.361, and he's a bad defensive OF.

[ELEVEN]

I don't see anything about them being reluctant to deal arms

Seems like nobody in Colorado is reluctant to deal arms.

[Scott34]

http://sulia.com/troyrenck/f/4808b3e5-a24c-48ed-bbd9-39e215d0d33d/?source=twitter&guid=4808b3e5-a24c-48ed-bbd9-39e215d0d33d

 

 

Renck puts a damper on this.

[HaloCory22]

F'n Chuck!

Edited November 26, 2013 by Cory

[Hubs]

Looking over the Rockies stats, I see five things.

 

1) They're looking for starters too. Doesn't bode well for a contributor for 2014.

 

2) They had three underachieving 2nd baseman, but all in their mid-twenties, doubt they want Kendrick.

 

3) They don't want Iannetta as they have Wilton Rosario.

 

4) They're not parting with Tulowitski, Cuddyer, or Carlos Gonzalez unless it brings back a lot of young talent. Which the Angels don't have to offer.

 

5) Need a replacement for Helton.

 

 

So, I'd say they Angels are pushing for Chacin and Bettis for Trumbo and a minor leaguer. 

[AngelsAndRamsFan]

Looking over the Rockies stats, I see five things.

 

1) They're looking for starters too. Doesn't bode well for a contributor for 2014.

 

2) They had three underachieving 2nd baseman, but all in their mid-twenties, doubt they want Kendrick.

 

3) They don't want Iannetta as they have Wilton Rosario.

 

4) They're not parting with Tulowitski, Cuddyer, or Carlos Gonzalez unless it brings back a lot of young talent. Which the Angels don't have to offer.

 

5) Need a replacement for Helton.

 

 

So, I'd say they Angels are pushing for Chacin and Bettis for Trumbo and a minor leaguer. 

The Rockies probably aren't interested in Iannetta, but it doesn't have anything to do with Wilton Rosario. The Rockies plan on moving Rosario to the OF. 

 

It seems like Trumbo is the only player on the Angels that the Rockies are targeting. 

[gotbeer]

If the Rockies are looking for pitching.  Could be Hanson, Blanton, or Jepsen are the players for some minor leaguers.  Trumbo for minor leaguers is such a small market team trade.

[Hubs]

Maybe they would want Iannetta back if they are moving Rosario. 

 

I'd do Trumbo, Iannetta, Hanson for Parker, Bettis, Murphy & Butler.

 

Except the Rockies probably wouldn't.

[ELEVEN]

If the Rockies are looking for pitching.  Could be Hanson, Blanton, or Jepsen are the players for some minor leaguers.  Trumbo for minor leaguers is such a small market team trade.

Trade all 4 and try to get something useful back.

[Hubs]

If the Rockies are looking for pitching.  Could be Hanson, Blanton, or Jepsen are the players for some minor leaguers.  Trumbo for minor leaguers is such a small market team trade.

 

I disagree, I'd hate to lose Trumbo, but the Rockies know he can fill their hole at 1st, relatively cheaply and that he might hit 50 HR in Colorado with a .290 BA. Think SLC numbers.

 

They have some solid, near-ready minor leaguers, and if it re-stocks the farm with guys like I mentioned above, while saving the Angels $5M they can then spend on a free agent starter?

 

I think Cron could put up similar numbers to Trumbo, especially when paired with a cheap DH option like Cory Hart or even Grant Green.

 

Trumbo's defense is better than Cron's of course and can play 1st or the OF. 

[Dave Saltzer]

Looking over the Rockies stats, I see five things.

 

1) They're looking for starters too. Doesn't bode well for a contributor for 2014.

 

2) They had three underachieving 2nd baseman, but all in their mid-twenties, doubt they want Kendrick.

 

3) They don't want Iannetta as they have Wilton Rosario.

 

4) They're not parting with Tulowitski, Cuddyer, or Carlos Gonzalez unless it brings back a lot of young talent. Which the Angels don't have to offer.

 

5) Need a replacement for Helton.

 

 

So, I'd say they Angels are pushing for Chacin and Bettis for Trumbo and a minor leaguer. 

This is my thinking.

 

One thing Chuck said is that the Rockies are targeting one of our players. So, we're going to push hard for pitching and could be a match. One ML one and one on the doorstep would be a great haul.