Angels re-sign Raisel Iglesias (4 years, $58 million), DFA Selman

[tdawg87]

The back end of our bullpen is pretty good now. I'm not sure if Loup is immediately penciled in as the "set-up" guy, as he's mostly been a lefty specialist or whatever you call them. But he's done well against right handed batters the last 2 years. 

Either way, the bullpen has improved. Hopefully we'll add another reliever and pick up a flyer or 2 for depth. 

I wouldn't be opposed to having Cishek back, but Maddon is...Maddon so it's probably not the best move.

[ten ocho recon scout]

20 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

The back end of our bullpen is pretty good now. I'm not sure if Loup is immediately penciled in as the "set-up" guy, as he's mostly been a lefty specialist or whatever you call them. But he's done well against right handed batters the last 2 years. 

Either way, the bullpen has improved. Hopefully we'll add another reliever and pick up a flyer or 2 for depth. 

I wouldn't be opposed to having Cishek back, but Maddon is...Maddon so it's probably not the best move.

Maddon is probably bitching in some group text somewhere about cishek as we are about stroman somewhere

[Inside Pitch]

47 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

I wouldn't be opposed to having Cishek back, but Maddon is...Maddon so it's probably not the best move.

I want Cishek back BECAUSE of Maddon. 

Maddon is going to fall in love and drive someone into the ground by over-exposing him.  I'd rather it be a guy like Cishek than a higher leverage RP.

 

[eligrba]

7 hours ago, Lou said:

But Gosselin is gone. What does that save us, about $19 million?

Saves about 3-4 loses.

[tdawg87]

30 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

I want Cishek back BECAUSE of Maddon. 

Maddon is going to fall in love and drive someone into the ground by over-exposing him.  I'd rather it be a guy like Cishek than a higher leverage RP.

 

So we need a sacrifice for Lord Maddon?

[Warfarin]

7 hours ago, Second Base said:

And again, I don't mean this to complain. If it had to be 4/58, I completely understand and would've made the same decision. 

I just feel like a fair market deal, one that paid him what he's comparatively worth as well as what's best for the team, I was thinking 4 years, 13 million per year. You don't want to go past age 35, and he's 31. He's a reliever, and those are so volatile, but he's about as proven as they come. 

No complaining. It's just my assessment. A slight, but necessary overpay.

I agree.  I too think it is a bit of an overpay, but it's great to have a closer and have the end of games locked down.

Iglesias, Loup, Mayers, Warren, Quijada, Herget, Wantz, and a long reliever.

I could see another reliever being added as well, although someone who will probably earn probably just around 1-2mil.  

[AngelsFaninGA]

Good. We might actually have a functional bullpen now. 

[Robrock30]

10 hours ago, Angelsjunky said:

It might be worth accepting the possibility that the Angels aren't acquiring any more starters. Not only have they spent most of their wad already, but still could use with a middle infielder and possibly a catcher and reliever or two.

I am very impressed with the Offseason moves.  Syndergaard and Loup were my desired additions along with retaining Iglesias.  Check!

While I like Stroman the pitcher he has turned me off with his Twitter activity and he has even blocked me from viewing his account and I never interacted with him so I am confused.

Need to preserve long term deals to extend Ohtani as Japanese philosophy used to say naiyu gaikan  or something like that.

I am looking to trade with Marlins after signing Suzuki.  Looking at Sixto Sanchez after he proves health after Shoulder surgery recovery.

[Angel Oracle]

10 hours ago, Blarg said:

This is a good thing. It probably takes the Angels out of the Shortstop market but I think locking down a bullpen will garner more wins. 

Now, get one more late innings guy (Tepera?).   Iglesias, Loup, Tepera, and Mayers in the late innings might allow them to get by without having Stroman.

Especially if Ohtani and Thor stay healthy and the young pitchers take another step forward

[Stradling]

Who’s spot on the 40 man roster did Iglesias take?  I think we were at 39 when we released Gosselin, then made the Lorenzen signing official, that put it at 40 again.  So am I wrong or does someone need to be cut?

[Blarg]

9 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Who’s spot on the 40 man roster did Iglesias take?  I think we were at 39 when we released Gosselin, then made the Lorenzen signing official, that put it at 40 again.  So am I wrong or does someone need to be cut?

Yes, they are at 41. My guess is Selman is probably going to be released. 

[Stradling]

6 minutes ago, Blarg said:

Yes, they are at 41. My guess is Selman is probably going to be released. 

So I’m guessing they’ve agreed to the deal, and today Selman or someone will be released and the Iglesias signing will be made official.  
Or a trade is coming to free up a roster spot or two.  

[totdprods]

I'm still curious about a possible Willson Contreras trade too. I imagine there are other teams ahead of us - I could see the Mariners involved here - but it's no secret Maddon loves the dude and it's pretty obvious with the Gomes signing and Contreras' tweet he's on the move. Probably taking a physical with a deal announced today. 

Biggest reason the Angels could be involved, aside from the Maddon bromance, is the fact that there really hasn't been anything leaking about a Contreras trade.

[Blarg]

I really don't want players picked and traded for to appease a manager with one year left on his contract. 

[Erstad Grit]

53 minutes ago, Robrock30 said:

I am very impressed with the Offseason moves.  Syndergaard and Loup were my desired additions along with retaining Iglesias.  Check!

While I like Stroman the pitcher he has turned me off with his Twitter activity and he has even blocked me from viewing his account and I never interacted with him so I am confused.

Need to preserve long term deals to extend Ohtani as Japanese philosophy used to say naiyu gaikan  or something like that.

I am looking to trade with Marlins after signing Suzuki.  Looking at Sixto Sanchez after he proves health after Shoulder surgery recovery.

You don't want Stroman because his Twitter behaviors hurt your feelings? 

[Stradling]

Just now, Erstad Grit said:

You don't want Stroman because his Twitter behaviors hurt your feelings? 

Yea that’s what I got out of it. 

[totdprods]

10 minutes ago, Blarg said:

I really don't players picked and traded for to appease a manager with one year left on his contract. 

Essentially worked out with Cobb 

Not necessarily saying I'd want it, just that it wouldn't surprise me. I could see Contreras costing an uncomfortable amount.

[ten ocho recon scout]

9 hours ago, Tank said:

This is good news. I’m glad the deal got done so that there’s one less concern.

How was the Del macho combo?

[Robrock30]

6 minutes ago, Erstad Grit said:

You don't want Stroman because his Twitter behaviors hurt your feelings? 

Not at all.  I like him as a Pitcher so I advise signing him.  He is durable injury wise even though he doesn't pitch deep into Games and pitches to contact.  He is great defensively at his position.  His Twitter is personal but it doesn't impact me objectively as he would be a good SP to have.

[Erstad Grit]

2 minutes ago, Robrock30 said:

Not at all.  I like him as a Pitcher so I advise signing him.  He is durable injury wise even though he doesn't pitch deep into Games and pitches to contact.  He is great defensively at his position.  His Twitter is personal but it doesn't impact me objectively as he would be a good SP to have.

Good,  because that would be a very snowflake mindset to have.  I'm glad you can disagree with someone politically and still be able to root for them.  

[Robrock30]

8 minutes ago, Erstad Grit said:

Good,  because that would be a very snowflake mindset to have.  I'm glad you can disagree with someone politically and still be able to root for them.  

I have watched him up close for the past two years and he isn't a bad guy at all. His Father I believe is a retired Police Officer on Long Island.  I just find his Twitter activity distasteful and I believe it will depress his market value as it should.  There are consequences for one's actions and Teams including White Sox and Yankees and others have removed him from consideration.

[ettin]

23 minutes ago, Robrock30 said:

I have watched him up close for the past two years and he isn't a bad guy at all. His Father I believe is a retired Police Officer on Long Island.  I just find his Twitter activity distasteful and I believe it will depress his market value as it should.  There are consequences for one's actions and Teams including White Sox and Yankees and others have removed him from consideration.

And you know this how?

I've found most of the posts I've seen from Stroman to be positive, so I am not sure which specific posts you think are "actionable" or deserve "consequences"?

[Tank]

44 minutes ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

How was the Del macho combo?

a little sloppy but well worth the effort.

[Robrock30]

5 minutes ago, ettin said:

And you know this how?

I've found most of the posts I've seen from Stroman to be positive, so I am not sure which specific posts you think are "actionable" or deserve "consequences"?

Stroman has blocked me so I don't have access to his posts.  I can only go to secondary sources and media.

[Tank]

28 minutes ago, Robrock30 said:

Stroman has blocked me so I don't have access to his posts.  I can only go to secondary sources and media.

holy cow, what did you say to him that caused this?