Official 2021-22 Hot Stove League Thread.

[ten ocho recon scout]

29 minutes ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

 

Sweet.

[EdmontonAngelsFan]

 

[T.G.]

You know something somewhat lost in all of this is the fact Kole Calhoun is a Ranger.

That's just effin' wrong.

[UndertheHalo]

If the Angels relieved the Reds of the Moustakas contract do we think Castillo could be had without giving up Adell or Marsh or a top 5 prospect ? Seems to me that this is the kind of trade the Angels should pursue.  The Angels have money.  They don’t have prospects or cheap controllable major league players in excess. 

Edited December 1, 2021 by UndertheHalo

[UndertheHalo]

2 minutes ago, True Grich said:

You know something somewhat lost in all of this is the fact Kole Calhoun is a Ranger.

That's just effin' wrong.

Should probably make peace with the idea that he’s going to burn us a few times. 

[mmc]

Hey @Jeff FletcherI know that teams and players won't be negotiating or finalize contracts while under lockdown but are teams still allowed to discuss or finalize trades?

[CanadianHalo]

48 minutes ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

 

lol they’re actually not going to land a top tier starter… wow. It’s truly impressive at this point how incompetent this organization is

[Stradling]

4 minutes ago, CanadianHalo said:

lol they’re actually not going to land a top tier starter… wow. It’s truly impressive at this point how incompetent this organization is

I do wonder what your posts will look like when the organization turns it around. 

[Lou]

Just now, Stradling said:

I do wonder what your posts will look like when the organization turns it around. 

He'll disappear.

[angelsnationtalk]

1 minute ago, Stradling said:

I do wonder what your posts will look like when the organization turns it around. 

You mean all of AW posts...

[UndertheHalo]

28 minutes ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Hes a wop.

 

There, I said it. Now go get stroman

No lie detected

[ScruffytheJanitor]

19 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

If the Angels relieved the Reds of the Moustakas contract do we think Castillo could be had without giving up Adell or Marsh or a top 5 prospect ? Seems to me that this is the kind of trade the Angels should pursue.  The Angels have money.  They don’t have prospects or cheap controllable major league players in excess. 

[mmc]

 

[angelsnationtalk]

12 minutes ago, CanadianHalo said:

lol they’re actually not going to land a top tier starter… wow. It’s truly impressive at this point how incompetent this organization is

Still options to trade, however spending the money would have been my preferred route. 

I do understand the frustration, however. Syndergaard is a gamble, but Lorenzen, to me, feels like the typical 1 year deals we always do. Just hoping for the best with zero risk on the longterm payroll...... Groundhogs day 

Edited December 1, 2021 by angelsnationtalk

[jsnpritchett]

20 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

If the Angels relieved the Reds of the Moustakas contract do we think Castillo could be had without giving up Adell or Marsh or a top 5 prospect ? Seems to me that this is the kind of trade the Angels should pursue.  The Angels have money.  They don’t have prospects or cheap controllable major league players in excess. 

I will again point out that Moustakas is owed $38M over the next two years (assuming his option for 2024 isn't picked up).  No one seems to actually think he'll contribute much, if anything.  Castillo will probably cost roughly $20M over the next two years.  Do you really want to pay $58M PLUS some sort of prospect capital for 2 years of Castillo and a guy who most people think would at best be a utility guy/occasional pinch hitter?  That seems like a horrible use of resources.

[mmc]

 

[mmc]

31 minutes ago, True Grich said:

You know something somewhat lost in all of this is the fact Kole Calhoun is a Ranger.

That's just effin' wrong.

[EdmontonAngelsFan]

Blast from the past alert!

 

[UndertheHalo]

3 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

I will again point out that Moustakas is owed $38M over the next two years (assuming his option for 2024 isn't picked up).  No one seems to actually think he'll contribute much, if anything.  Castillo will probably cost roughly $20M over the next two years.  Do you really want to pay $58M PLUS some sort of prospect capital for 2 years of Castillo and a guy who most people think would at best be a utility guy/occasional pinch hitter?  That seems like a horrible use of resources.

Well you don’t give them much prospect capital, that’s the point.  And it’s still cheaper than signing Stroman.  The idea is that you dont give up young players.  I think it’s a viable strategy. 

[Stradling]

Anyone know if signing bonuses are paid right away and paid in full even if there is a lock out?  @Jeff Fletcher?

[jsnpritchett]

Just now, UndertheHalo said:

Well you don’t give them much prospect capital, that’s the point.  And it’s still cheaper than signing Stroman.  The idea is that you dont give up young players.  I think it’s a viable strategy. 

But you'd still give up SOMETHING in the trade--plus committing to $58M for 2 years of control for the guy you actually want.  Just seems insane.  Castillo isn't THAT good.

[SlappyUtilityMIF]

4 hours ago, UndertheHalo said:

Get Taylor, and add a few more bullpen arms.   Ryan Tepera seems like a great add.  Get Matthew Boyd and use him as a long reliever. 

Boyd had TJ surgery in September he may not be ready this year? Depends on his rehab.

[UndertheHalo]

2 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

But you'd still give up SOMETHING in the trade--plus committing to $58M for 2 years of control for the guy you actually want.  Just seems insane.  Castillo isn't THAT good.

What can I say I’m a dang loony tune.  

[UndertheHalo]

That said, I disagree.  I think the potential loss from trading Marsh or Adell plus Bachman is significantly higher than the 58 million you spend for Castillo and Moose.  The angels situation is a difficult one.  You either burn money or you burn prospects.  I say burn the money.  

[UndertheHalo]

4 minutes ago, SlappyUtilityMIF said:

Boyd had TJ surgery in September he may not be ready this year? Depends on his rehab.

Oh scratch that part then.  The rest I still like.